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Delta, Northwest pilots reach tentative agreement on merger
By Sue Chang
Last update: 3:54 p.m. EDT June 24, 2008
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- A tentative agreement on a joint contract between the Delta Air Lines (DAL) and Northwest Airlines (NWA) units of the Air Line Pilots Association has been reached, Delta said Tuesday. The pilot groups also established a separate process aimed at establishing a single pilot seniority list by the close of the merger. The combination of the two airlines is scheduled to close later this year at which time the joint contract will take effect.
 
Press ReleaseSource: Delta Air Lines, Inc.
Delta Reaches Unprecedented Joint, Pre-Merger Agreement With Delta, Northwest Units of Air Line Pilots Association, Int'l.
Tuesday June 24, 3:45 pm ET
ATLANTA, June 24, 2008 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- Delta Air Lines (NYSE:DAL - News) today confirms that a tentative agreement has been reached between the Delta Air Lines and Northwest Airlines units of the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) on a joint contract to take effect upon closing of the Delta-Northwest merger, expected later this year. The pilot groups also have established a separate process designed to establish a single pilot seniority list by the close of the merger.

;Delta CEO Richard Anderson issued the following statement in response:
``We are pleased that the Delta and Northwest pilot groups have reached a tentative agreement and have outlined a process for seniority integration that will allow us to move forward with a unified pilot group. Achieving a joint contract and combined seniority list in advance of the closing of the merger is something that has never been done in this industry and is a testament to the leadership of ALPA and a working together culture.''
The tentative agreement is subject to ratification by both airlines' pilot groups. Delta in April announced that it is combining with Northwest in an all-stock transaction to create America's premier global airline. The new company will be called Delta and will be headquartered in Atlanta. Combined, the company and its regional partners will provide customers access to more than 390 destinations in 67 countries. Together, Delta and Northwest will have more than $35 billion in aggregate annual revenues, operate a mainline fleet of nearly 800 aircraft, employ approximately 75,000 people worldwide, and have one of the strongest balance sheets in the industry. The merger is subject to the approval of Delta and Northwest shareholders and regulatory approvals, which are expected to be completed later.




Bye Bye--General Lee
 
... The pilot groups also established a separate process aimed at establishing a single pilot seniority list by the close of the merger.

Does this mean ALPA Merger Policy, expedited binding arbitration or something that has been worked out between the negotiators.

Only time will tell.

Specualtion, opinion?
 
Does this mean ALPA Merger Policy, expedited binding arbitration or something that has been worked out between the negotiators.

Only time will tell.

Specualtion, opinion?


Just a guess but I bet it is something along the lines of expedited arbitration outside of ALPA merger policy.
 
Press ReleaseSource: Delta Air Lines, Inc.
Delta Reaches Unprecedented Joint, Pre-Merger Agreement With Delta, Northwest Units of Air Line Pilots Association, Int'l.
Tuesday June 24, 3:45 pm ET
ATLANTA, June 24, 2008 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- Delta Air Lines (NYSE:DAL - News) today confirms that a tentative agreement has been reached between the Delta Air Lines and Northwest Airlines units of the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) on a joint contract to take effect upon closing of the Delta-Northwest merger, expected later this year. The pilot groups also have established a separate process designed to establish a single pilot seniority list by the close of the merger.

;Delta CEO Richard Anderson issued the following statement in response:
``We are pleased that the Delta and Northwest pilot groups have reached a tentative agreement and have outlined a process for seniority integration that will allow us to move forward with a unified pilot group. Achieving a joint contract and combined seniority list in advance of the closing of the merger is something that has never been done in this industry and is a testament to the leadership of ALPA and a working together culture.''
The tentative agreement is subject to ratification by both airlines' pilot groups. Delta in April announced that it is combining with Northwest in an all-stock transaction to create America's premier global airline. The new company will be called Delta and will be headquartered in Atlanta. Combined, the company and its regional partners will provide customers access to more than 390 destinations in 67 countries. Together, Delta and Northwest will have more than $35 billion in aggregate annual revenues, operate a mainline fleet of nearly 800 aircraft, employ approximately 75,000 people worldwide, and have one of the strongest balance sheets in the industry. The merger is subject to the approval of Delta and Northwest shareholders and regulatory approvals, which are expected to be completed later.




Bye Bye--General Lee


Hey general..rumor has it you used to work at SWA and left for DAL....is that true? In 1997? T.G are thr initials
 
I believe that if you read the article it kind of infers that we have found a way to deal with the SLI. I would agree that it will be negotiations for a little bit followed by arbitration. All three sides want this done by DCC. That has to tell you something.
If this does happen, I would love to hear if we change our hiring outline.
 
Does this mean ALPA Merger Policy, expedited binding arbitration or something that has been worked out between the negotiators.

Only time will tell.

Specualtion, opinion?

True.

There is some guy named Nicolau presiding over the arbitration.

Apparently, he has a wonderful track record of labor harmony resulting from his decisions.
 
This will certainly be interesting to watch. What is the current speculation on the number of (post merger) mainline planes to be parked and the number of furloughs?

If anything, you gotta have some respect for a couple of MEC's taking a pro-active approach...I mean why not...since the company will do what the want anyway...

But in this case, the brothers and sisters at AWA/USAir can only dream of a deal like this, IMHO.
 
True.

There is some guy named Nicolau presiding over the arbitration.

Apparently, he has a wonderful track record of labor harmony resulting from his decisions.


Actually, he does Frank. And is highly regarded in the industry. So much so that both America West AND USAirways AGREED to Mr. Nicolau as the arbitrator.

But you already knew that....
 
Hey general..rumor has it you used to work at SWA and left for DAL....is that true? In 1997? T.G are thr initials


I got hired here at DL in 96. I thought about maybe trying to get an interview at SWA, but when I saw LBB on the route map I immediately threw up in my mouth. :) Anyway, I still think you have a great company with fun stews and great pay. Keep it up!


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
This will certainly be interesting to watch. What is the current speculation on the number of (post merger) mainline planes to be parked and the number of furloughs?

If anything, you gotta have some respect for a couple of MEC's taking a pro-active approach...I mean why not...since the company will do what the want anyway...

But in this case, the brothers and sisters at AWA/USAir can only dream of a deal like this, IMHO.

If they wanted to park more planes, they probably could have announced that now, when other airlines are doing it. Another reason they may not have announced a major mass parking of planes could be the political ramifications, possibly spooking some in Congress. I think they will try to throw some DC9s on routes made for 100 seaters, and see what happens. Also, I think they are counting on oil going down after Congress passes a law against oil speculation. Good Ole Doug Steenland just testified infront of Congress asking for more to be done. I am sure it would affect his stock options if oil went down and he walked away with more coin. We shall see, but right now I see us getting 8 (not 6 like I have stated before) new 777s next year, along with the remainder of the 10 737-700s, and a good chance of MD90s, possibly replacing some DC9s if they go away. We shall see....

Northwest CEO Wants Oil Speculation Addressed

06/23/08 - 09:05 PM EDT

As Congress moves to consider limits on the presence of speculators in the oil market, it will have the strong backing of the airline industry.
At a hearing Monday of the House subcommittee on oversight and investigations, the chairman, Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., said assets committed to commodity trading indexes totaled $260 billion in March, up from $13 billion at the end of 2003. He said speculators account for 70% of the trading in West Texas Intermediate crude on the New York Mercantile exchange, up from 37% in 2000.
Stupak backed three measures -- raising the margin requirements for oil price speculators to 50%, establishing volume limits to ensure that most oil futures buyers are consumers, such as airlines and refiners, and requiring full disclosure of trading.
A witness at the hearing was Doug Steenland, CEO of Northwest(NWA - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr) and president of the Air Transport Association.
"The highest priority is to look to tackle the overall price of fuel, given the fact that it's now 40% of our total cost pie," Steenland said. "Clearly, addressing the financial speculation is the most immediate thing the Congress can do."
The ATA says the industry's 2008 oil bill is expected to increase by $20 billion to $61 billion, resulting in an expected loss of around $10 billion. Already, eight carriers have shut down, and about 14,000 airline industry jobs have been lost. The industry "is going to have to be in a bit of a race," Steenland, whose airline is merging with Delta(DAL - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr), said. "We're looking to pass through those costs as quickly as we can. As those costs get passed through demand shrinks, and so we need to take capacity out."


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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A MD90 is a cheaper 737-800. That's really big for a DC9 replacement.
 
A MD90 is a cheaper 737-800. That's really big for a DC9 replacement.

Remember they will have 41 DC9-40/50s and 20 DC9-30s. The DC9-50 is actually pretty large (?) and I think it has 124 seats? I can see some MD90s replacing some of those possibly. The MD90s are cheaper than 738s though, and the NWA guys could train on them fairly fast if they are on the -9. They can fill the gap for 5-10 years until new versions of the 73NG come around I guess....


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Quite possible but we would need to buy all of the used ones to do so. I would expect a mix of 737's and MD-90's to do that job.
 
It's refreshing to hear some good news in light of this crazy industry. :beer:
 
Why is Delta stock at $5 with $1 billion fuel hedging, lucrative intl routes and a joint contract with NWA? Maybe it's because the company has lost 20 billion in the past 5 years and its senior leaders have a personal financial stake in this merger?
 
That would be part of it. Plus from discussions with other RA for being management really has a sense of the people he manages, and wants what is best for the gander. Lets hope that this will continue to hold true.
 
Why is Delta stock at $5 with $1 billion fuel hedging, lucrative intl routes and a joint contract with NWA? Maybe it's because the company has lost 20 billion in the past 5 years and its senior leaders have a personal financial stake in this merger?


can't answer that because you went to gov't schools and have no idea what that really means

stupidity in economics (101) will let the liberals drag us into socialism. no worry my friend the man will take care of you and bush made you poor.........
 
I just picked up my differences revision for the new 737-700s we're getting in a few weeks, and was surprised to see that we have them configured for 124 pax (12 first and 112 coach). That's quite a spread from the 160 we're shlepping in an 800, and also fairly close to DC9 numbers, isn't it?
 
I just picked up my differences revision for the new 737-700s we're getting in a few weeks, and was surprised to see that we have them configured for 124 pax (12 first and 112 coach). That's quite a spread from the 160 we're shlepping in an 800, and also fairly close to DC9 numbers, isn't it?

I guess, but the two planes have different missions.
 
I just picked up my differences revision for the new 737-700s we're getting in a few weeks, and was surprised to see that we have them configured for 124 pax (12 first and 112 coach). That's quite a spread from the 160 we're shlepping in an 800, and also fairly close to DC9 numbers, isn't it?

Actually closer to the 319.

DB
 
I just picked up my differences revision for the new 737-700s we're getting in a few weeks, and was surprised to see that we have them configured for 124 pax (12 first and 112 coach). That's quite a spread from the 160 we're shlepping in an 800, and also fairly close to DC9 numbers, isn't it?

A319 - 124
9-30 - 100
9-40 - 110
9-50 - 125
 

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