Some times the factual report doesn't exactly have all the facts either. It is not very comforting to know that the NTSB doesn't even go beyond questioning the pilot in some cases.flx757 said:A prelim is like an initial notification, all subject to change. The factual is the completed narrative with all the facts. The final will include a breif narrative and probable cause. So, to answer the question, the factual is not the complete report. The Board reviews factual accident reports prior to releasing a probable cause, which sometimes takes time with the amount of reports to review. After that the final report with probable cause becomes available. Even in the extremely rare case where the probable cause is for undetermined reasons, there is still a final report issued.
No, this accident was not a fatal accident. No I do not know how many cases an investigator is working on, at any given time.flx757 said:alimaui,
It's very easy to criticize something you know nothing about.
Was this accident you referred to a fatal accident? Do you have any idea how many cases a typical field investigator is working on at any given time?
I do understand that bugets are limited, and never did I criticize the difficult job that they do. I have the utmost respect for the people who investigate for the NTSB and all other types of accidents. I understand how trying this type of job can be personally as well as to the family.Do you have any idea how limited the budget of the NTSB is and how they are constantly fighting for enough money to even add one investigator to the office? You refer to this as an "incident". I doubt that the investigator had the time, nor did this "incident" warrent a visit to the scene. The Safety Board has to prioritize their investigations, and an "incident" such as this will warrent probably no more than telephone interviews.
I understand the great difficulty in pulling apart an accident scene. Like I said above, I do have the utmost respect for those people who faces disastrous scenes daily to make flying safer for me and everyone around me.The attention to detail that goes into investigating an accident where there are actual safety of flight issues (not necessarily one where a student pilot makes a wrong turn-off and clips a taxiway sign), is incredible and time consuming.
If you feel this isn't to your satisfaction, write your Congressman. Maybe you can get the Board the money they need to "properly" investigate all accidents and incidents.
Totally agree with you here!IMHO, the NTSB is the ONE federal agency actually doing all they can do to serve the best interest of aviation safety. If you feel you have a better idea, I'm sure they would be willing to listen.
Lastly, let me clarify that this was not me. However I did witness this accident so I do know the facts surrounding it. The pilot was also a friend of mine.BTW, this factual report did contain the facts--the facts as reported by the pilot involved. Was this you????