Not Another Lakes Posting!

[brianh]

Anything in the Jan bid packets about a new-hire class? Or, has anyone been called or heard rumor of a Jan class?? Any info would be appreciated,,

Thanks in advance

 

[azpilot]

Rumor I heard was guys in the pool and no interviews yet for Jan. I haven't heard about a class in Jan.

My info is worth the paper it was written on.

= AZPilot

 

[canadflyau]

Yes there is a JAN Newhire class.

 

[azpilot]

Yes there is a JAN Newhire class.

This is just the folks from the pool though right?

- AZPilot

 

[brianh]

canadflyau, thanks for the info!!!

 

[flying4food]

An insider there tells me they will start making calls next week for the Jan class.

 

[brianh]

Anybody else hear anything, as far as date, how many?? Thanks

 

[canadflyau]

"This is just the folks from the pool though right?"

for now yes (talked to HR today)

When? The bid packet says Jan 6th

How many? Not sure, I think there may be a pause to see how, if at all, the UAL filing affects us. Seeking money owed, if it comes to that may slow down the planned hiring/interviewing. (my .02)

 

[Cornelius]

Be afraid, be very afraid. Things are looking very bad over here so make sure what you're getting into before you show up for class. Personally, if I were to start a class this January knowing what I know, I would go work 9-5. Just my opininon, doesn't make it gods word.

peace

 

[brianh]

Talk to me!! Give me the inside scoop,

Thanks

 

[Cornelius]

brianh, planned reductions and to top it off, over 85% of the pilot group voting to strike when the time comes. Negotiations continuing on forever and getting no where. As soon as the mediator agrees negotiations are over, its strike time. You know what, I'm all for the strike because we're treated like little kids here.

peace

 

[azpilot]

brianh, planned reductions and to top it off, over 85% of the pilot group voting to strike when the time comes. Negotiations continuing on forever and getting no where. As soon as the mediator agrees negotiations are over, its strike time. You know what, I'm all for the strike because we're treated like little kids here.

peace

Do you really think at a place like Lakes a strike will make a difference? Times have never been good at Lakes and times industry wide are really bad. While we all know your deserve better do you really think you will get it? I am a Laker hopeful and I know what I am walking into. No rose colored glasses here. I of course would not cross a picket line. Is the opinion of the 85% that is will be better to put Lakes out of business vs. staying your minimum time required and moving on? Just my 2 cents. Good luck with the negotiations.

- AZPilot

 

[Cornelius]

Correction to my last post. The planned reductions are just a rumor, not a fact. Azpilot, a strike will put lakes out of business within 2 shakes of a lambs tail. Its time lakes makes some changes, and the time is now. We're just getting to fed up. Hopefully things will work out.

 

[brianh]

Cornelius, thanks for the dirt!! I like AZPilot, know what I'm getting into, I'm hoping thing's will get better, good luck!!

 

[azpilot]

Correction to my last post. The planned reductions are just a rumor, not a fact. Azpilot, a strike will put lakes out of business within 2 shakes of a lambs tail. Its time lakes makes some changes, and the time is now. We're just getting to fed up. Hopefully things will work out.

I hope it does as well. I have always said it takes a lot more effort to do things the wrong/hard way than the easy/right way. Problem is most management folks don't think this way. I have been in a leader related position for 7 years and have always had great teams work for me. I wish I could convince others to treat their people better.

I think the only thing you might be able to get are slightly better schedules and less jr. manning. I am sure a pay increase is out of the question.

Hell the Lakes web site is so bad I would help them improve that on my days off! It is too bad. The whole image is so shoddy. I like the new tails on some of the planes though. Of course most of the Mesa 1900's are even worse!

Good luck,
AZPilot

 

[Menace]

strike

I know it seems strange that a pilot group would even consider striking at a time like this when there are a lot of pilots out on the street, but if I were still there, I'd vote to strike too (in fact, I was planning on it). It shows just how fed up the pilots are. I worked there for 3 years and only had a contract for 1 of those years. It might as well have been ripped up and thrown away anyways. They only used it to their advantage.

It is just pitiful that the F.O.'s qualify for food stamps. A base salary of $13,000!! I really hope that changes for the better.

In my opinion, I don't think Great Lakes will ever go out of business though. Somehow that place always manages to survive. I've heard a lot of guys call it the "cockroach airline" just because it never goes away! If it does come down to a strike, Voss will find some way to keep it alive.

If you can afford it, go ahead and go there, but get on to another regional asap!

-For whatever it's worth

-Menace

 

[brianh]

That's too bad!! I've read that somewhere out here, that the only two thing's that could survive a nuclear winter is, cockroaches & GLA!!! It's lookin like a severe nuclear winter!!!
I'm with Menace, I think I can survive to get the valuable time & experience!!!

 

[ERJpusher]

is it true that mesa is bidding all of GLA's EAS routes out of denver?

 

[flying4food]

How can Mesa bid for a route?? I thought the routes and gate slots were according to operating certificates??

 

[flying4food]

Where is eas??