Gulfstream 200
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you will get "as filed" (to destination usually)
but you need to recieve an "oceanic" clearance eastbound from Gander. You pick this up from them on a seperate frequency usually over Nova Scotia/Newfoundland area - depending on your "coast out" point. Those unfortunate to have to can get this clearance on the ground in Gander if stopping for fuel. The slickest way to get is is just let the FMS recieve the Oceanic via an AFIS message, then usually within 10-15 seconds they will call and ask "did you get your Oceanic" A full readback is still required for some reason. They also want a TMI (Track Message #) to let them know you have a copy of the tracks for the day (they depend on wind - location of Icelandic low - and they also do a SELCAL check so you dont have to monitor HF the whole ride and wind up deaf like all the old farts we fly with.....
Westbound this "oceanic" happens from Shanwick control ( or BODO maybe up North). Same deal except at the close to border aiports (like Shannon) they can give you the crossing clearance on the ground also. They will clear you to your "coast out" point and you have to make it there within 3 mins (I think) or get an amendemnt. This is all simply for spacing on the crossing.
I may be a lttle off on some of the rules, but its pretty simple. Pick up an ATLANTIC ORIENTATION 1/2 chart and that will give you 99.9% of the stuff you need to know for a competent crossing, especially clearances, etc.....loads of info...I pick it up now and then and always pick up something I have forgotten!!
hope any of this rambling helped......
but you need to recieve an "oceanic" clearance eastbound from Gander. You pick this up from them on a seperate frequency usually over Nova Scotia/Newfoundland area - depending on your "coast out" point. Those unfortunate to have to can get this clearance on the ground in Gander if stopping for fuel. The slickest way to get is is just let the FMS recieve the Oceanic via an AFIS message, then usually within 10-15 seconds they will call and ask "did you get your Oceanic" A full readback is still required for some reason. They also want a TMI (Track Message #) to let them know you have a copy of the tracks for the day (they depend on wind - location of Icelandic low - and they also do a SELCAL check so you dont have to monitor HF the whole ride and wind up deaf like all the old farts we fly with.....
Westbound this "oceanic" happens from Shanwick control ( or BODO maybe up North). Same deal except at the close to border aiports (like Shannon) they can give you the crossing clearance on the ground also. They will clear you to your "coast out" point and you have to make it there within 3 mins (I think) or get an amendemnt. This is all simply for spacing on the crossing.
I may be a lttle off on some of the rules, but its pretty simple. Pick up an ATLANTIC ORIENTATION 1/2 chart and that will give you 99.9% of the stuff you need to know for a competent crossing, especially clearances, etc.....loads of info...I pick it up now and then and always pick up something I have forgotten!!
hope any of this rambling helped......
