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NAA stay away for now

I hear things are really bad their right now. Pilots are leaving there at alarming numbers. Alot I am sure is going to depend on if they get merged in with World. Worlds mgmt wants to keep them seperate and use them to weaken the union at World.
 
I have a couple of buddies there and they're pretty happy. I haven't heard anything about a mass exodus. It does have its own problems but I haven't heard anything like you said. One guy there has been an F/O for a few years and the other just upgraded and both of em have had good things to say. They are owned by world but they all say they are a seperate entity doing there own thing for the most part. Who knows. I'm still hoping they call. Its a defenite step up for me, so I hope they call and it all works out. Thanks for your info though.
 
World Pilots are on strike.....Primarily over the North American acquisition. So there is alot of uncertainty and alot of Bull---- going on right now. The info I have supplied is from twice down the line. I dont know if its 40 they lost recently or over the last year or couple of months... 40 out of aprox 120 pilots is significant though. Also referance the lawsuit that a former pilot their won. IF its a step up for you good luck. Also if everything works out to a merger it will be a better place to work no doubt..If not I wouldnt want to be there. Our current mgmt wants to use NAA as the ugly cousin who will do it for cheaper. We want to prevent this. Holding companies that are pitting two pilot groups up against oneanother is contributing to the decline of our profession. There is an example of two other pilot groups on this board that are dealing with this same issue.

So best of Luck and lets hope that World Air "holdings" mgmt merges the two to join these two fine pilot groups and let us prosper.
 
Bankangle said:
World Pilots are on strike.....Primarily over the North American acquisition. So there is alot of uncertainty and alot of Bull---- going on right now. The info I have supplied is from twice down the line. I dont know if its 40 they lost recently or over the last year or couple of months... 40 out of aprox 120 pilots is significant though. Also referance the lawsuit that a former pilot their won. IF its a step up for you good luck. Also if everything works out to a merger it will be a better place to work no doubt..If not I wouldnt want to be there. Our current mgmt wants to use NAA as the ugly cousin who will do it for cheaper. We want to prevent this. Holding companies that are pitting two pilot groups up against oneanother is contributing to the decline of our profession. There is an example of two other pilot groups on this board that are dealing with this same issue.

So best of Luck and lets hope that World Air "holdings" mgmt merges the two to join these two fine pilot groups and let us prosper.
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Well 40 is not even close it is more like 10-15, and we are up to about 140 pilots now with more in the pipe, two more 767's coming this year growth is slow but that is the way it should be for now
 
Thanks for all the input, but I'd like to get back to the original point of the thread. Any one heard back from their interview yet? I know atleast one person who interviewed on Thurs. the 19th has gotten a call already. He got the Feb. 13th class date. Wondering if anyone else is still waiting to hear, or if I should start checking the mailbox. Any info would be great. Especially if there's someone else out there waiting to hear. Thanks all.
 
What are the schedules like there? How about typical pay? I see that guarantee is 67 hours with each extra hour paid at 150%, but how often do you go over the 67?
 
Most guys are on reserve with 12 days off. 67 hrs is easy to do, over the last year I averaged about 80 hrs. with the high month maybe 110 and maybe one month at guarantee.
 
bigboeings said:
Most guys are on reserve with 12 days off. 67 hrs is easy to do, over the last year I averaged about 80 hrs. with the high month maybe 110 and maybe one month at guarantee.
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How would you rate the QOL? Length of trips?
 
The trips average from day trips to 11 days. It hard to say how long to stay on reserve, sometimes the reserve line go pretty senior. Keep in mind it is a charter airline, most flying is not known at the time of the bid. But most reserve line are 24 hr. callout.
 
Been hearing mostly bad about them (from an internal source). Also, that they are not hiring experienced guys with time and/or ratings on the 757/767.
How does 100 sectors IOE grab you?
Strange folks....
 
Any idea what typical mins are for guys who have been interviewed/hired lately?
 
North American

Does anyone know if North American is still actively interviewing? If so, how many more do they plan to hire this year? Any idea of what kind of backgrounds recent newhires have had. I've been trying to get an interview for a while but no luck. Thanks to anyone who may have some info!
 
bigboeings said:
Im not sure what you mean about the IOE.
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Allow me to explain.
IOE = Initial Operating Experience (American term) meaning the supervised line training which a new hire has to do on a new airplane. Usually culminating in a line check by a check airman whereupon the individual is relaesed to the line and considered "Fully qualified" (though not experienced)

Line Training (British term) meaning the exact same as above.

Depending on the company and your experience level a minimum number of sectors(segments/trips) are required before a person can be signed off for a final line check. It would be specified under the airline's Ops Specs and/or Flight Crew Training Manual (FCTM).
It is not unusual to have up to 20 sectors before you qualify. 100 is extremely high and is indicative of a problem either with the training syllabus or the trainee or both......not to mention COSTS!!!!!
Hope that answers your question!
 
psw757 said:
Does anyone know if North American is still actively interviewing? If so, how many more do they plan to hire this year? Any idea of what kind of backgrounds recent newhires have had. I've been trying to get an interview for a while but no luck. Thanks to anyone who may have some info!
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See your PM!!!
 
Yes we are actively interviewing. Have been told 165 pilots to be here to man the current a/c (5- B757's, and 3 B767's), and the 2 more B-767's that are coming( one in March '06, and 1 in Dec "06). I have also heard that the company wants 200 pilots total by the end of the year. World holdings has said in print that they want to add 10 aircraft total between World airways and North American this year, so maybe that is where that number is coming from.
It is not perfect, but I am waiting to see what the contract we are fighting for says before I make a jump.
As far as qualifications, mostly regional guys right now, a lot from colgan on the Saab.
The COO(who was put in that position by our owner who was bought out by World) just left at the end of Februrary. The Coo and ex-owner hated unions and were doing everything they could to stall the contract. Now I am not saying the new guy is better, but it couldn't get much worse than that pair of losers.
Good luck, it is not a bad place to hang your hat for awhile, or maybe make a career out of it, depending on where you are coming from.
Coastinout
 
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Also, we have 140 pilots on the seniority list as of the end of February. And yes we have had 45 pilots leave in the last almost 2 years. A lot of that was because of the ex-owner and his COO. Hopefully things will improve, but my resume is ready to go at a moments notice if necessary.
Coastinout
 
coastinout said:
Yes we are actively interviewing. Have been told 165 pilots to be here to man the current a/c (5- B757's, and 3 B767's), and the 2 more B-767's that are coming( one in March '06, and 1 in Dec "06). I have also heard that the company wants 200 pilots total by the end of the year. World holdings has said in print that they want to add 10 aircraft total between World airways and North American this year, so maybe that is where that number is coming from.
It is not perfect, but I am waiting to see what the contract we are fighting for says before I make a jump.
As far as qualifications, mostly regional guys right now, a lot from colgan on the Saab.
The COO(who was put in that position by our owner who was bought out by World) just left at the end of Februrary. The Coo and ex-owner hated unions and were doing everything they could to stall the contract. Now I am not saying the new guy is better, but it couldn't get much worse than that pair of losers.
Good luck, it is not a bad place to hang your hat for awhile, or maybe make a career out of it, depending on where you are coming from.
Coastinout
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Maybe that explains why I was unable to even get an interview the past year!
That was with an internal LOR, type ratings and time on both 757 and 767, international experience as well as part 121, ETOPs etc etc.
Obviously, I'm far too qualified since I have experience on what they fly and also their type of operation. I guess I would know too much..........:crying:
 
Never heard it referred to sectors before. Thanks for the nice scarcasm, and I think the attitude explains a lot.
 

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