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Jun 30, 2003
Is the anyone who has any info on North American Airlines out of JFK?

I'm hoping someone can help answer some of these questions?

1. How many are they hiring?
2. How long can one expect to be on reserve?
3. I know there is a short reserve and a long call out, can a new hire get the long call out?
4. How many days off per month on reserve?
5. Any more aircraft coming?
6. What does first year pay usually work out to be?
7. What is the average monthly schedule like? How many days off for line holders, how many hours of flying?

I really appreciate anyone who could help me with some info.

November 1, 2005
Press Release - Strike Ballot Results

North American Airline Pilots pass Strike Ballot by overwhelming margin

(Houston, TX) - On Tuesday, November 1, 2005, strike authorization ballots for the crewmembers of North American Airlines were counted at the main offices of Teamsters Local 747. The pilots voted in favor of the authorization to strike by an overwhelming 99%. This show of resolve will hopefully convince the company to provide movement towards reaching the first Collective Bargaining Agreement for the pilot group.

The strike vote was carried out in response to repeated attempts by the company to derail the negotiations process. A strike will take place if and when released by the National Mediation Board in conformity with the Railway Labor Act procedures.

“We think these strike vote results will show the company that the pilots are not only unified, but also serious about getting a quality contract.” said Teamsters Local 747 President and General Counsel, E.E. Sowell.

North American Airlines, which began operating in 1990, is headquartered in New York City and flies B757s and B767s, providing scheduled air service and military airlift. North American Airlines was recently purchased by World Airways Holdings Inc. out of Atlanta, GA, which also owns and operates World Airways. The crewmembers of World Airways, also represented by the Teamsters, are in contract negotiations as well.
October 4, 2005
Letter to North American COO, Steve Harfst

October 3, 2005

Mr. Steve Harfst
Chief Operating Officer
North American Airlines
Bldg. 75, Suite 250
North Hanger Road
JFK International Airport
Jamaica, NY 11430

RE: Your Letter to North American Pilots of September 30, 2005

Dear Mr. Harfst:

The above referenced letter to the North American Pilot Group is misleading and unfocused, but more importantly, it fails to sufficiently highlight the real issue of consternation between the pilot group and the Company which is restoration of the pilots’ wages, work rules and benefits.

As members of your negotiating team most assuredly have told you, the Union demands restoration of the status quo prior to January 1, 2005 as a signal from the Company that they are willing to negotiate in good faith to achieve a fair and equitable contract for this pilot group. Instead, the Company is using the restoration issue as leverage in an attempt to memorialize its unilaterally imposed work rules into the Collective Bargaining Agreement. The pilots of North American did not unionize to go backwards. They will not accept a sub-par contract just to achieve that which was stolen from them.

The North American pilots are currently being paid wages which are 30% below industry average and up to 40% below its sister subsidiary, World Airways.

This Local has no conspiratorial arrangements with the pilots of World Airways. We demanded restoration of the status quo at our last negotiating session and your Company negotiators declined. We did not tie the World Airway’s contract to anything. However, the IBT will not allow World Airways Holding Inc. to whipsaw one subsidiary over another and adequate contractual protections must be achieved to prevent such.

Additionally, it is ludicrous and disingenuous for you to assert that the Union is “foot dragging”. All of the contract sections that you cite in your letter should have been agreed to a year ago. As you well know, from the commencement of negotiations in April of 2004 through the buyout of North American to World in 2005, not a single contract section was agreed to. This happens to coincide with your tenure at the bargaining table. Indeed, the Union submitted its entire proposal almost one year ago. The Company has yet to respond to at least eleven sections.

The parties still have numerous contract sections to negotiate. Restore the status quo to the playing field as it existed when the pilots unionized. Then we can move forward to achieve an agreement as soon as possible. After all, if the Company was willing to restore the status quo prior to the hearing, then why would it not restore it now?


E.E. Sowell
President and General Counsel

cc: World Airways Holdings, Inc.
World Airlines
North American Pilots
Don Triechler, IBT Airline Division Director
North American Executive Council
North American Negotiating Committee
Deanna Cline, Business Agent

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To answer some of your questions; I dont know how many they are hiring, we just got word that they are getting two more 767s next year. You make about 45-70K depending how much you work. Chances of getting long call reserve are pretty good, its a 24 hour call out. Their are more reserve lines than hard lines most months.12 days off for reserve line and up to 18 for line holder. There are the normal contract problems going on cause we are going for our first contract.
hope this helps
Pilotbob3 said:
no you get center coach seats...and you better like it.

LOL! It always amazes me how I always get stuck between to fatso's who's blubber sticks over their seat when non rev-ing. Man is that uncomfortable!
$12.5 Million Jury Verdict In Airline Whistle Blower Case

For Immediate Release

SANTA MONICA, Calif./EWORLDWIRE/Dec. 19, 2005 --- A Superior Court
jury in Oakland, California returned a verdict of over $12.5 million
($12,576,348) on December 14, 2005 against North American Airlines
(NAA), a wholly owned subsidiary of World Air Holdings, Inc., for
the wrongful termination of an airline captain who blew the whistle
on the airline's unsafe maintenance practices.

The plaintiff, Captain Randall Otto, had an impeccable safety record
as a U.S. Air Force Command Pilot, with over 1000 hours flown in
Desert Storm. Two years after being hired by North American Airlines
and four months after he was promoted to captain, he was wrongfully
suspended from work after reporting a serious safety violation
involving the illegal dispatches of a Boeing 757 with an unresolved
flight control problem. Less than one month later, NAA fired him.

Otto filed the law suit for wrongful termination in violation of a
public policy. The jury found that NAA terminated Otto in
retaliation for whistle blowing about NAA's unsafe and illegal
maintenance practices that were compromising the safety of the
traveling public.

The six man, six woman jury was unanimous in finding liability
against NAA. Based on the evidence and expert testimony presented
during the six week trial, the jury found that Otto's complaints
about airline safety and airline maintenance deficiencies were a
motivating reason for NAA's decision to discharge him. The jury
further found that the airline's conduct constituted malice,
oppression or fraud, the standard required for punitive damages.

After hours hours of deliberation on compensatory damages, the jury
returned a verdict of $5,576,348. The trial resumed the next day on
the issue of punitive damages and the jury returned a verdict for an
additional $7,000,000 in punitive damages.

Patrick E. Bailey, of Bailey & Partners, Santa Monica, California,
was the trial attorney for the plaintiff. Following the jury
verdict, Bailey said, "They were putting profits over safety and
rather than listen to their own captain, NAA tried to put a muzzle
on Captain Otto's safety complaints by firing him. The jury sent a
loud and clear message to NAA - don't put dollars over safety."
North American Airlines to Contest Adverse Jury Verdict in 2003 California Lawsuit

North American Airlines to Contest Adverse Jury Verdict in 2003 California Lawsuit
Tuesday December 20, 7:58 am ET
JAMAICA, N.Y., Dec. 20 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- North American Airlines, Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of World Air Holdings, Inc. (Nasdaq: WLDAE - News), announced today that a California Superior Court jury in Alameda, Calif., has awarded a verdict against the company totaling approximately $12.6 million in actual and punitive damages in a suit alleging wrongful termination of North American pilot Randall Otto in 2003. The jury's verdict and its calculation of damages are subject to review by the trial court, which could result in the verdict being set aside or reduced. The company plans to aggressively appeal any adverse judgment."We are extremely disappointed with the jury's verdict," said Mark McMillin, general counsel for the company. "This suit involved charges of repetitive abusive conduct directed toward co-workers by Mr. Otto, which culminated in his termination. Mr. Otto claimed that he was terminated for complaining about maintenance, although he never filed a complaint with any governmental agency. North American Airlines has an impeccable safety record spanning 15 years of operations. We believe the jury did not fairly take into account all of the evidence and testimony we presented.
"The company firmly believes that North American acted properly in terminating Mr. Otto and that the verdict should be set aside by the trial court or overturned on appeal," McMillin said. "If an appeal becomes necessary, we expect the process to be initiated in late February or early March in the California Court of Appeal."
The suit existed prior to the acquisition of North American by World Air Holdings in April 2005, and World Air Holdings was aware of the pending litigation. The suit has no bearing on the company's ongoing operations or operating results. The company has assessed whether to record an accrual for the judgment based on all information available to it. The company believes this matter is a pre-acquisition contingency and any accrual recorded would impact the goodwill related to the purchase of North American by World Air Holdings.
North American Airlines, a wholly owned subsidiary of World Air Holdings, is a U.S.-certificated air carrier offering air transportation services throughout the world for the U.S. military and commercial customers. Founded in 1989, North American operates a fleet of eight passenger aircraft in charter and scheduled service. For information, visit www.northamericanair.com.
["Safe Harbor" statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: This release contains forward looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties including, but not limited to, the impact of competition in the market for air transportation services, the cyclical nature of the air carrier business, reliance on key marketing relationships, fluctuations in operating results and other risks detailed from time to time in the company's periodic reports filed with the SEC (reports are available from the company upon request). These various risks and uncertainties may cause the company's actual results to differ materially from those expressed
in any of the forward looking statements made by, or on behalf of the company in this release.]

Source: North American Airlines, Inc.

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