No more excuses= up your pay!

[Mamma]

Nope, but I have an MBA. Does that make me evil?

Nobody cares about your free military MBA. I think the poster was calling into question your incredibly stupid remarks that show you as some kind of Judas. Would you walk a picket line in support of your fellow UPS pilots or would you cross it?

 

[BigLebowski]

I agree completely with Lil J Seinfeld regarding our pay. Max pay for an airline pilot capt should not exceed 150K and FO pay shouldn't top 100K. We are raping our companies for anything more.

are you an idiot?

 

[instructordude]

are you an idiot?

No. Are you gay?

 

[jmreii]

For seven years after 9/11 i've seen excuse after excuse - and delay after delay.

I've seen management steal pensions and concessions worth millions to each of us, w/ barely a fight- and line their own pockets.
I've seen senior legacy pilots vote to furlough junior pilots while at the same time outsource their job.

It is time for Legacy carriers to stop cutting the legs out from under this industry- get their pay and work rules back up- and find a meaningful solution to the scope problem.

What progress is going on right now?
Who is working on what?

This is just unacceptable- how long will this pilot recession last?
It is embarrasing. And for many of our peers-= it is an extremely difficult hardship.

Management reponse will be, kick rocks!

 

[JumpJetter]

although it may be easy, the pay should reflect the massive responsibility that is easily taken for granted....especially by those of us doing it every day.

 

[Mamma]

although it may be easy, the pay should reflect the massive responsibility that is easily taken for granted....especially by those of us doing it every day.

Exactly! Many seem to forget that...Lil Seinfeld.

 

[Wesb737fo]

You're crazy dude. Wake up and smell the reality. There are thousands of guys who are not in the airlines that could fly the planes just as safely and efficiently as the fat, lazy, 50-something baby boomers doing it now.

Yes our profession takes years of training and a lot of sacrifice. But so does nursing and you won't see RNs making the ridiculous wages we make. Any Capt that thinks he deserves the 300k he makes at UPS/FDX or the 200k at the pax carriers is crazy.

Don't get me wrong--I'll take the wages. I just don't have any illusions about how much I deserve to be paid. First year FO pay should be around 75k and top capt pay should be no more than 150! I'm a 4th year FO and I make a lot more than a lot of doctors!!

Hmmm....fourth year UPS pilot with military background lecturing about how much Airline Pilots should be paid. Are you low time as well?
You don't have much credibility, but you are an airline manager's wet dream.

Sure it's crazy for a Captain to want $300K. It's crazy right up to the point when the sh!t hits the fan and an experienced crew saves lives and a multi-million dollar airliner.

Jumpjetter said it right.

PS. L'il J.Seinfeld......uggghh...what a disgrace for an awesome screen name.

 

[pipejockey]

MBA types are in demand and those with the know how can negotiate their pay.

Are these the same people that have run corporation after corporation into the ground, all the while pocketing millions for themselves. Are these those people with "know how" you speak of? The only "know how" they have is that they know how to screw over their labor and the American people. I suppose that scum sucking, bottom feeding, pile of monkey sh*t, Richard Fold from Lehman Bros. is the kind of MBA with "know how" you speak of huh? He was paid 300 million dollars from 2000 to present fro doing such a fine job over there, then he has the audacity to expect a 20 million dollar severance to compensate him for all his stock options that are now worthless?? How about the peon on the street who had some stock in the company that now ends up with nothing to show for it. I'd love to see that pathetic sorry excuse for a human being, run down like a dog in the street along with all the other crooks who have given the American people the shaft.

 

[BigLebowski]

No. Are you gay?

nah, but based on that pic of yours...i'm certain that you are.

dont' worry about the fa in the back...he'll never tell

 

[JoeMerchant]

So are you suggesting that we continue to let our pay slide? The oncoming global depression doesn't seem to be hurting the wages of management, or doctors and lawyers for that matter. Why are we different? Why shouldn't they share in the pain?

Management, doctors, and lawyers aren't union...yet we are.....Why is their pay doing better than ours? Answer that...then we can continue this discussion...

People like you and liljerry are pathetic! You are managements wetdream. You people have no respect for yourselves and cave at everything management demands. When will people like you start asking yourselves why you think management deserves the excesses they get all the while demanding more from us for less.

What do you want ME to do about it? I have a great job with a great schedule....Answer my question above and we can continue with a discussion...or you can act like the typical union crybaby and hurl insults....your choice....