No Grab 'n Go for ToHo

[wms]

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/...nce-to-american-airlines-chief-tom-horton.ece

 

[labbats]

Common sense prevails. Watch out for flying pigs on your TCAS.

 

[ackattacker]

The secret backroom deals are being shook on right now. Don't cry for ToHo, he'll still get his 20 million through some other channel.

 

[waveflyer]

The secret backroom deals are being shook on right now. Don't cry for ToHo, he'll still get his 20 million through some other channel.

Sadly true-

CEO payoffs are destroying this country

 

[OHGOON]

Sadly true-

CEO payoffs are destroying this country

Totally with you on that, but at least this time it's at least questioned by someone...better than nothing.

 

[fam62c]

The secret backroom deals are being shook on right now. Don't cry for ToHo, he'll still get his 20 million through some other channel.

There is no question about that, they will just wait until they are through with the bakruptcy process and find another way. Nobody tells CEO's no when it comes to executive compensation, they all look out for each other so they can constantly push the bar higher. If Horton isn't worth 20m what would that say about the next guy? He will get paid so those who come after him can get even more.

 

[Wingman10]

Even if he ends up getting a payout to leave. Adios.

It is like a bad divorce, sometimes it is in the cost of just moving on.

The employee's of AA have already moved on. It is a harsh reality
in today's world but for this company to move forward it must do it
with better more forward thinking management.

The benefit of doubt has been handed out to the oncoming team and we
will see how that turns out but regarding the potential payout, in many
ways it is small coin to see positive change.

I know many here at AA are looking forward to the future with our newly
aligned brethren.

 

[SIG600]

Sadly true-

CEO payoffs are destroying this country

Not defending the shadey sht corporate execs pull off on the backs of employees, but I've had a lot more of my money, privacy and liberties stolen from me by the gov't than from any CEO.

 

[waveflyer]

Not defending the shadey sht corporate execs pull off on the backs of employees, but I've had a lot more of my money, privacy and liberties stolen from me by the gov't than from any CEO.

I haven't. And no legacy pilot can say the same.

"Want to live like a republican, you have to vote democrat."- Harry Truman

Patiently waiting for pilots to vote in their own self interest instead of beating this ridiculous tax drum.

 

[Dan Roman]

Not defending the shadey sht corporate execs pull off on the backs of employees, but I've had a lot more of my money, privacy and liberties stolen from me by the gov't than from any CEO.

Ok Glen Beck.....the fact is tax rates are lower now than during the Reagan years, don't know a single person that can claim the government is "spying" on them and we live in the country that has more freedom and opportunity than any other country in the world.
The simple fact is the people that control the purse strings of our society, upper management, have become greedier and greedier and they have managed to hijack enough politicians to believe it's free enterprise that justifies the huge disparity between the few people in the corporate boardrooms whose compensation has gotten totally out of whack relative to the people who actually do the work that has built this country.

 

[waveflyer]

Well said-
It's not anti-capitalist to believe getting paid much more than you earn is as bad as welfare-

Middle class producers are getting screwed

 

[Scoot 11]

I haven't. And no legacy pilot can say the same.

"Want to live like a republican, you have to vote democrat."- Harry Truman

Patiently waiting for pilots to vote in their own self interest instead of beating this ridiculous tax drum.

Want to live like a democrat.
Just stop working. You'll get a phone, welfare, unemployment (for 2 years) and not have to contribute anything to society.
Oh yeah, and you can pass on your debt to your children and grand children!
~Scoot 11

 

[jonjuan]

Want to live like a democrat.
Just stop working. You'll get a phone, welfare, unemployment (for 2 years) and not have to contribute anything to society.
Oh yeah, and you can pass on your debt to your children and grand children!
~Scoot 11

Well said. It's the non-working welfare grabbers screwing the middle class as well as any other group.

 

[waveflyer]

Well said. It's the non-working welfare grabbers screwing the middle class as well as any other group.

Except that the numbers don't back that up-

An easy target.

Guess what? Nobody wants to work their arse off just to make a few at the top rich. The problem is systemic, and yes- the rich have been stacking the deck in their favor for 3 decades now and the systemic problems of a shrinking middle class are coming to roost. Of course welfare rolls are increasing- we're in a brutal downturn and there aren't the well paying jobs there used to be- meanwhile executive compensation increases steadily year over year over year while the middle class stays stagnant in pay if you can manage to stay in it at all, -

Connect the dots people.

Increasing #'s on welfare has a cause. You're blaming the wrong people.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Increasing #'s on welfare has a cause. You're blaming the wrong people.

It's the Democrat party padding/paying for their voting rolls.

 

[CorpCaptain]

Increasing #'s on welfare has a cause. You're blaming the wrong people.

So let me get this right. It's the educated upper class that is driving the millions of those sitting at home collecting 400 a wk with 5 kids from making a solid living for themselves. Interesting persepective. Me, I tend to think that people these days have a complex that even in the most dire of circumstances feel they are too good for certain positions. Especially when you can sit at home and make more draining the country for 2yrs while you wait for that CEO job with a High School education. There is no shame anymore in being worthless.

 

[SIG600]

Increasing #'s on welfare has a cause. You're blaming the wrong people.

Want to know why welfare is up so much? They've loosened the standards and are encouraging people the take it. Why? Because JP Morgan, who runs the EBT card program gets a cut, and it's astronomical how much money they're making. How did this happen? Lobbying Washington. Know why we went to EBT cards instead of the old actual food stamps? Bleeding heart liberals thought it was too demeaning and embarrassing for those on them (duh, motivation to get off the program). Now it's rife with abuse and corruption.

Until politicians have term limits (and thus motivation to do whats right, vice incentive to do what will get them reelected), problems like this will always be systemic. They all disgust me, however demonizing the rich for stacking the deck in their favor? Well they're playing by the rules so to speak. Want to even the playing field, then yank that carpet out from under them.

You raise a question though with your constant rants about how over paid corporate execs are.... how much do you think they should make in a free-market economy? How do you see limitations being put in place to make it "fair" yet keep competition and the free market working?

 

[waveflyer]

Rants?
Again it's not socialist to think the Tom Horton's haven't earned what they get

 

[SWA717]

F$&k both you Democrats and Republicans. Both parties are destroying this country. You both are to blame, so scruw you!

 

[SIG600]

Rants?
Again it's not socialist to think the Tom Horton's haven't earned what they get

This we can agree on. "Rants" may be a little harsh.

F$&k both you Democrats and Republicans. Both parties are destroying this country. You both are to blame, so scruw you!

Also agree. I'm a libertarian. Try and at least spell check in your blind rage. :beer: