NJI Sale Rumors

[AA717driver]

100k at year 5 is reasonable for a F2000 Captain???? What are you smoking?? That is so far BELOW reasonable, it's pathetic. A 5 year F2000 Captain should be making 150k MINIMUM. That's the market, fool.

What are you smoking? Despite what the salary surveys say, the GV jobs that pay $150k at whatever longevity are few and far between. $100k for a F2000 CA at 5 years is probably right about market rate for 90% of the country (and that still may be a little high).

I used to think I was worth $200/hr. to fly a DC9. Oops. The market disagreed.

Care to guess the number of airlines that pay $150k for NB CA at 5 years longevity? Box-haulers don't count.

How about two--NW (for now) and SWA. Delta is close...(for now).

But I do give you credit for resurrecting the seat grab issue. TC

 

[Starman]

S ingle Carrier Status – pilots united with one seniority list and equal treatmentNo way in this lifetime!!! We do not want to be part of ITB 1108 and never will be part of this chain around the neck of this company!!!! Good luck with the rest. PS don't really care how this ends. I will NEVER sign a union card!!!

Too bad you're not in a union. Since you are an at-will employee, you don't even have a voice in the process. Get used to the idea slim.

 

[GVFlyer]

Too bad you're not in a union. Since you are an at-will employee, you don't even have a voice in the process. Get used to the idea slim.

That's not really true. NJI pilots are divided into cells with each cell leader having direct access to senior management. Subsequently, if even the newest first officer has a complaint or an idea about a better way to do his job, he has a voice and the ability to get his message to a leadership that is sincerely interested in keeping the pilot workforce happy.

GV

 

[Starman]

Great GV. I'm sure that'll make them feel better once they get the news on what happens via negotiations where our pilots actually have a vote.

 

[2EASYPilot]

Just as point of reference for 2000 pay...in the real world, not the make believe fractional world most 2000 pilots will make 110-120 base pay after 10-15 years with the possible exception of the coasts. I am not sure where these 150,000 salaries are but my guess is they would be very senior employees with very large companies. Not trying demean your battle here but you should understand what is real versus fiction.

 

[gutshotdraw]

2EASYPilot is on the mark. $150 K is a completely unrealistic figure for a Falcon 2000 salary and that is the point. IBT 1108 leadership has promised so much to the membership that any TA that falls the slightest bit short of the promises will be voted down.

NWA AMFA promised its membership the moon and the stars and the membership reacted accordingly. Everyone sees the reults.

Some others have posted something like STMFD. Be careful what you wish for; you may get it.

 

[Starman]

I don't ever remember seeing a promise of $150K/yr anywhere. Could you point me to a document that came out of my Local that promises me that?

Didn't think so.

 

[gutshotdraw]

I am referring to an earlier post from one of your co-workers who indicated that a 5 year Falcon pilot at NJA "should be" making 150K. The larger point is, the IBT 1108 SU leadership has raised expectations on every area of 6 S and there is bound to be some dissapointment with a new TA.

 

[flyjetspeed]

Too bad you're not in a union. Since you are an at-will employee, you don't even have a voice in the process. Get used to the idea slim.

I am an "at will" employee and intend to remain one. I may not have a voice in YOUR process but I DO have a voice in THE process. I can continue to perform to the maximum of my ability and provide the owners with the best "experience" possible. If my misguided fellows at NJA drop the ball, I can be there to pick it up. I can rely on the fact that this performance is recognized and rewarded. And finally I can walk out the door and sell my services to a higher bidder on any given day. YOU get used to the idea, Starman, that I am my own man and not the pawn of some pseudo-socialist neo-facist Union. But thank you for calling me slim, I was beginning to think you had'nt noticed.

 

[NJAowner]

Goldman Sachs

For what it is worth, RTS is a former Goldman Sachs partner sho left GS to takeover EJA. Goldman was a minoiry investor in EJA/NJA and sold out to BH with RTS.

Fly safe.