NJASAP furloughed pilots

[fischman]

I encourage you all to call in to the NJASAP office and file a 401k individual grievance.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Fisch, serious question. Why has the 401k individual grievance filing rate (from numerous accounts) been so low?

Is it:

A) Lack of awareness among the pilot group as to the ability/union request to file?

B) General apathy as in "We ain't gonna change it so just let it roll and see what happens with the CAG"?

or, horrors,

C) Some pilots have lost/never did have confidence in this NJASAP leadership and just do their job and keep their mouths shut for not wanting to endure the barrage of hateful rhetoric by the same 100 drum-beaters?

Personally, I think it is a TINY bit of A, a LOT of B, but a fair amount of C as well.








*I think you're right about people who can't argue a case resorting to name calling (as you posted elsewhere). Wait for it....

 

[CA1900]

I can only speak for myself, but I assumed an individual grievance wasn't necessary since we had a class-action grievance in process.

I just filed my individual one; it was very quick and easy with the example posted on our board.

As for losing confidence in leadership, I suppose that's possible, but I'm much more concerned with our management pissing away money on propaganda dinners while complaining that we need to improve investor return.

 

[G4dude]

I can only speak for myself, but I assumed an individual grievance wasn't necessary since we had a class-action grievance in process.

I just filed my individual one; it was very quick and easy with the example posted on our board.

As for losing confidence in leadership, I suppose that's possible, but I'm much more concerned with our management pissing away money on propaganda dinners while complaining that we need to improve investor return.

Please don't be offended, but do y'all ever just relax and enjoy the job?

 

[CA1900]

Yep, sure do. I relax a lot more when management isn't focusing all its efforts into taking away my livelihood and my retirement.

You can sit back and let a labor lawyer destroy what the employees and Santulli built, or you can fight to keep it. By your statements here, it's clear you lean toward the former.

 

[rajflyboy]

after last week NJA pilots have more support for ML than they ever have

 

[gutshotdraw]

Source?

 

[rajflyboy]

Source?

any crew lounge in the United States of America

all you guys talk about now is this

 

[G4dude]

any crew lounge in the United States of America

all you guys talk about now is this

I avoid those crew lounges like the plague.

 

[BentOver]

I filed along with the few who still communicate on NJASAP (seeing how we are mostly out of the grown up loop:angryfire)

All I ask in return is the same remedy that the line guys get. (extended days or whatever an arbitrator decides) AND when push comes to shove, the furloughed pilot section of the contract is to remain in tact. I never want to hear that the company is offering XXXX for a limit on furlough recall rights. Because I KNOW there are a few at NJA who would throw our recall rights in the trash for a few extra dollars. Not a lot but a few.