NJA XL vs. 680

[crjdude]

Would you go to the XL or 680 at NJA and why?
Anyone with experience in either/both fleet(s) at NJA?

Thanks
crjdude

 

[sgmick]

XL pays $300 a month more. XL

 

[johnsonrod]

Potentially load fewer bags in the XL/XLS than the spacious Sovereign - end up loading more golf bags in that huge cargo hold.

 

[notaNJApilot]

XL is $300/month more if you are a CAPTAIN. $225 more if you are a first officer.

 

[sgmick]

6 of one, half dozen the other....;-) More money is the point.

 

[wanttofly]

Do you want short legs or cross country legs. The XL is more pay, and you can't go for more than a little over 3 hours without stopping for fuel. From what I was told the 680 can take off at max gross weight from a 4000ft strip and fly across the country. Like the previous poster said, the 680 can carry a moving truck in the back. When we first got the 680's I was ferried home for almost 3 hours in one, very nice ride. Hope that helps a little.

 

[FLYLOW22]

XL. Bigger fleet, more lines and $3,600 more bones as a PIC and $2,700 more per year as an SIC just for going to work.

The Sovereign does have a bright future but it's still in a mode where the very junior and the very senior of big the plane. It's bound to fill in the gaps sometime soon and when it does it would be best to be ahead of the seniority bell curve lest you get shoved down.

 

[squonk]

680 is a NJA dream. Short field capability, and long legs. Nice cabin so when it covers for the X or Falcon the owners don't whine too much. Both fleets are working hard right now. As mentioned above, $300 for the differences on the XL.

 

[NJAowner]

Why does the XL/XLS pay more than some other fleets?

 

[Guitar Guy]

Why does the XL/XLS pay more than some other fleets?

The XL and XLS are considered to be different models. As such, pilots who are assigned to fly both the XL and XLS are paid an extra $300 (for PIC's) or an extra $225 (for SIC's). A similar situation exists for the Ultra and Encore, though the company is splitting those two fleets. When the fleets are finally completely split, that so-called "crossover" pay will end for those pilots currently qualified on both the Ultra and Encore.

 

[wanttofly]

Never mind, go to the 680, just saw that your already a captain here. I went to the XL and am low senority for captains. I have a friend who is going to 680 class next month, will be the 2nd class to go through initual at cmh in the 680 with the new electric sim instead of a hydraulic one.

 

[popgoesbubble]

CRJDUDE

why Are you posting on this board and not asking this same question on our Union Board?

For Someone that says they are a Captain at NJA you sure don't know anything about our fleet types as far as which fleet works harder then the other. and the fact that you didn't know that we get difference pay on the XL makes me wonder.

Also I read on another post you started your looking to go to Jetblue? So do you really work for us? I don't understand why anyone that has min 4 yrs capt pay scale would consider leaving to go start swinging gear in a 190 making 35K with an upgrade taking 5 yrs and poor health insurance.

 

[Dr Pepper]

This thread is a year old. Why are you resurrecting it?

 

[Crobar]

dont ask dumb questions, there's got to be a good reason

 

[crjdude]

Dang dude.
I just asked a question...
What's with the attack?
WTF do you care anyway?

 

[RTRHD]

CRJ Dude is actually a NJI Intelligent officer. Who has been sent to learn your most inner most secrets because we are too lazy to read that entire novel of a contract. Dude proceed to the extraction point. (the Hassbrook Hilton) You have been made. There will be a 450 with a hot Flight attendant they’re waiting on you.

RTRHD Out
Sorry but it has been a bore here since we all get along now.

 

[johnsonrod]

This thread is a year old. Why are you resurrecting it?

I think he was referring to CRJdude's questions about Jet Blue on the LCC forum. He was questioning why any sane NJA captain would even consider moving to JB at this time... That's a good question but I doubt CRJdude would make the move.

I am betting a number of junior JB pilots will make the move over to NJA once the TA passes...