NJA Pilots Vote

[cougar12]

From a Flight Options Pilot

Everyone Vote!

I know you will be successful and congratulate you all!
I have ran into hundreds of you on the road and everyone of you have been full of information and support. I thank you and the vast majority of FO pilots thank you. All I can say is "What a first class group of aviators".
I wish I made a different decision many years ago!

 

[realityman]

NetJets is a Berkshire Hathaway company.

Last year was our most profitable ever.

We have $2.5 billion in now aircraft on order.

The only things keeping us from growing faster is training slots and we can't get airplanes fast enough.

We have NEVER furloughed a pilot.

You future would be secure.

Incorrect.

There was a time, albeit it was very long ago, back when Netjets was still EJA,that they DID furlough.

Just a small point, but thought I'd mention it.

Times are good for us. This is probably one of the most secure jobs in aviation right now.

Just know that our history suggests anything could happen in the future.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Incorrect.

There was a time, albeit it was very long ago, back when Netjets was still EJA,that they DID furlough.

Just a small point, but thought I'd mention it.

Times are good for us. This is probably one of the most secure jobs in aviation right now.

Just know that our history suggests anything could happen in the future.

You are most likely referring to a time when we flew a few lears as a Part 135 Charter Operator.

Before Berk Hath.

Before the Fractional Concept was born.

Before Santulli.

A completely different busuiness model.

A completely differnet set of books, circumstances.

Pretty much everything.

Ok. Got it.

A more accurate way of stating what you did is to say that there were furloughs once at a company that operated with the name Executive Jet Aviation. EJA was the preceeding company that provided the Operating Certificate (nothing more) to NetJets Aviation.

 

[ozpilot]

Shortly after 2001, Netjets (then known as Executive Jet) did furlough, but it was Executive Jet management (EJM) a sister company to Executive Jet Aviation (EJA).

 

[realityman]

Flylow and Ozpilot,

Actually, at the time of the furlough, we were operating Citation SII's. This was prior to 2001. I'm not sure of the EXACT date, but I want to say early to mid 90's.

Santulli already owned the company and had started the fractional business. In the beginning though, no one knew about fractionals and the program did very poorly. Santulli dumped tens of millions into the company just to keep it going.

I wasn't working here at the time, but a close friend of mine was. She was one of the pilots furloughed. She eventually was hired by the FAA, but didn't like the work and came back to EJA and is now a captain on the X.

So it was EJA that furloughed, and it was not before the fractional model had started, but after.

However, as Flylow pointed out, things are VERY different now than when the fractional business was just in its infancy. For now, it really is one of the most secure jobs in aviation.

I truly hope it stays that way!

I just wanted to point out that Fisch's statement that we've NEVER furloughed wasn't entirely accurate.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Shortly after 2001, Netjets (then known as Executive Jet) did furlough, but it was Executive Jet management (EJM) a sister company to Executive Jet Aviation (EJA).

Sister company with pilots not on the NJA/EJA pilot seniority list.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[fischman]

I just wanted to point out that Fisch's statement that we've NEVER furloughed wasn't entirely accurate.

It wasn't entirely inaccurate either! :beer:

 

[gutshotdraw]

"It depends on what the definition of IS, is."

 

[gunfyter]

There were also Downgrades...

 

[skiandsurf]

I voted and sent in my automatic dues deduction form. Now I get home from my trip, and the my mail awaits me. I have to vote again and fill out another form for dues deduction. Or do I?