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bombinha

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Can anyone tell me if at NJA you gotta carry those truck loads of Jepps or you already using Jeppview or EFB's??
 
Can anyone tell me if at NJA you gotta carry those truck loads of Jepps or you already using Jeppview or EFB's??

Yeah, unfortunately we do have to carry a ton of jepps. The good thing is the jepps belong to the plane, not the pilots.

So NO, we do not lug around flight cases with 10 jepp books.
 
So do you guys do the revisions on jepps or there are someone to do that too?

We use whats called a "Q service". I think its 4 times a year we get complete new charts (remove and replace everything). Then every other week we get the standard revision, that gets put into a seperate book (ie....rev 1. add entire section). Now before you takeoff for your next destination, pull the destination charts from the regular jepp book, and check the revision book for revisions at your destination, and replace if needed.

After rev. 8, the revision books are getting pretty full of "Un updated" or unused revisions. The next revision will be the "new set" and starts back to rev. 1.

Does this help?
 
Up to date Jepps=big problem.

It is part of the crew's job to ensure that their plane has current Jepps / Charts on board.

"Q service" is a terrible, lousy, cumbersome, basically unworkable solution to up-to-date Jepps. Unfortunately, it is far superior to anything else out there. I got an airplane last trip that was three "Q's" out of date and the airplane had been though several Jepps stations. What a pain!

The company looked at several electronic solutions, but none could alleviate the necessity to also carry paper...there were also issues with updating the EFB's. At one time, the company anounced an agreement with a vendor, but the devil-in-the-details sent them back to the drawing boards.

Latin America, South America, etc, are all still done the old fashioned way and some of the mis-placed pages you find in those books make you realize what a good thing "new contents" is!
 
Evidently the NJA POI doesn't go for electronic flight books- at least without the full paper back-up which makes the electronics not very worth-while. The Q service wouldn't be quite such a pain if everyone would just do their job and put them in when they get them rather than leave them for the next crew.
 
Evidently the NJA POI doesn't go for electronic flight books- at least without the full paper back-up which makes the electronics not very worth-while.


Hehe. That's funy. The NJA POI likes whatever NJA likes.
 
Mooney:

Unfortunately, it is far superior to anything else out there.

Q Service superior to Jeppview or Flight Deck! WTF Over?

Most pilots would prefer to update Jepps via a cd over a handful of books any day. So easy a monkey could do it. Maybe even a pilot ;)

POI's are morons. The poi of one fractional may say pilots have to carry back up printers to back up 2 onboard jeppview tablets. While a competiting fractional that also uses tablets, their poi does not require the printer to back up a tablet.

Freakin monkeys running the zoo.
 

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