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Q: I'm airlining home tomorrow and calling in to see if my airline is booked before I go to bed...
A: Most likely no if you're on the 7/7 schedule. Sundays and Mondays are big airline days for Travel because everyone seems to go home and come out on the same days. Travel is really overworked during this time...

Q: [Via AFIS]: There are no hotel rooms left in vegas? Have you tried a place called the 'Bunny Ranch?'
A: NEVER AGAIN!

Q: This locker combination doesn't work!
A: Yeah I know. We changed all of them. Call in... :rolleyes:

Q: Who created my First Day Out showtime?
A: Crew Planning. It's pretty much guesswork right now... Who you are paired up with, is not guesswork. It's a little more scientific then you may realize...

Q: I've had 5 different showtimes for 5 different tours. My partner's is always the same. What the hell?
A: We're doing the best with what we've got. Your previous show times are written down on paper, and a lot of times, crew planning simply doesn't have the time to check and see what you've had previous. This may change soon... We're working on a feature in IJet that will allow us to 'lookback' and see what you've had for your previous tours instead of digging through mounds and mounds of paperwork. Scheduling will also have this feature so they can easily look a day or to in the past and see how hard we've worked you guys.

As I mentioned above, the 7/7 guys are almost coming out / going home at the same time. This increases the workload to crew planning much as it does travel.

Q: NetJets did a horrible job rolling out the 91K stuff last minute
A: Yeah, it sucked for me because i manually had to type out all of your briefs *30 hours overtime*.

Truth be told, we have a multi-million dollar computer system that is one of the most complex pieces of software I've ever seen. Now, with all of the new rules that went into effect on Feb 17th, we simply couldn't throw all of this written code and new programs into the system all at once to check for things like DAAP requirements, crew briefings, auto re-upping of hotels for next day prospective rest issues etc etc etc... It has to be done slowly. First thing was the DAAP, once we threw that into the system, we debugged, debugged, and debugged some more (to make sure one set of instructions didn't interfear with another). After that, we threw in something else, and bam, debugging process starts all over again.

We actually started testing all of these variables in a 'Fake Environment' before we rolled it out into the real one. This started months and months before Feb 17th. Once you dump a program from a mostly static testing environment (with a few people changing things in the program while it is running) into a continously changing real environment (hundreds of people), who knows what will happen.

We would have loved to dump it all in at once, But that would have been a disaster... even with all of the debugging, my fingers still hurt for all of that manual typing I had to do with no sleep... so yeah, nobody's more pissed off at that then me...

Q: Can I take a Hooters Air flight home on my last day?
A: Don't think they're on our prohibited list yet... request it!

Q: I can't figure out what's going on with my blackberry / pager! Who do I talk to?
A: Call the helpdesk or pager support. A lot of the problems with the blackberries can be solved by taking out the battery for a couple of minutes. A lot of the problems with the pagers can be solved by chucking them across the ramp.

Q: I'm in a smoking hotel room! Please change it.
A: There's no formal rule on this... We'll do everything we can, however we're not obligated to move you across town for a new one.

Q: My hotel is overbooked.
A: Have the hotel 'Walk' you to a room. This basically means that the hotel is required to set you up in a hotel nearby, and sometimes, at no cost.

Q: Can I go standby for an earlier flight home?
A: Depends on the situation. Most of the time, yes. If it's like US Airways and they require a 'Standby Fee' (which i just recently discovered :mad: ), then it'll come out of your own pocket. If it's no additional cost, then let us know what flight, departure time, and arrivial time.

by the way, I have a question for you guys...

If I rent N172QS (a cessna 172) next week and file IFR, Can I call myself "execjet 172?" That'll really screw up the controllers...

heh... maybe "execprop"? :)
 
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I don't have on on me, but somewhere buried deep within the FOM, it will state that crewmembers are required to submit a reason for the delay should the off time be greater than 14 minutes, and a 15 minute update thereafter.
It also states that we are no to use them in flight. AFIS doesn't work on the ground either. Sending a message as soon as we land is pointless since we are going to call in. Point is, rarely is there time to send a message, unless we are waiting on PAX to show and they are more than 15 minutes late.

In fact, the word "Standby" and "Bullpin" are 2 words we need to have dumped from our vocabulary since Feb. 17th... Technically, there is no such thing as these two things anymore...
According to the FOM, there is standby at the airport, and standby away from the airport. We just follow the rules as crazy as they are often.

Go ahead and file with "ExecJet" in the remarks section as a call sign, they may accept it.
 
Live4flyng said:
I UNDERSTAND THAT. Imagine a flight from NY to Montreal, 0.5 flight time. Crew Comm comes in with an ASAP message to Montreal. YOU CAN'T do it with a 2 hour notice. Aww forget it..... Next time I will call in sick and F'in tired! Maybe FracCapt can cover the flight.

Your profile says you're a Captain. Act like it, take charge. If you can't give 2 hours notice, you delay your trip until you can. How hard is that? Don't let them push you into doing something that will get YOU, not THEM, in trouble. Get a clue, dude.
 
FracCapt said:
Your profile says you're a Captain. Act like it, take charge. If you can't give 2 hours notice, you delay your trip until you can. How hard is that? Don't let them push you into doing something that will get YOU, not THEM, in trouble. Get a clue, dude.
Spare me your BS dude. Who said anyone was pushing me around? If you would open your eyes and shut your cake hole for a few minutes, you would realize I was responding to one of his Q & A sessions about going to Canada and calling CANPASS 2 hours in advance. Trying to point out that often it can't be done the way things are scheduled and then you get the ETD pages after explaining it over the phone. By the way, who the Fk are you to tell me to act like a captain, worry about yourself.
 
Live4flyng said:
It also states that we are no to use them in flight. AFIS doesn't work on the ground either. Sending a message as soon as we land is pointless since we are going to call in. Point is, rarely is there time to send a message, unless we are waiting on PAX to show and they are more than 15 minutes late.

According to the FOM, there is standby at the airport, and standby away from the airport. We just follow the rules as crazy as they are often.

Not 100% sure on this, but on all of our aircraft, moments after you blast off or touch down, and automated AFIS get's sent to us and records your off, and sometimes your on times (which i always thought was cool)...

Now if you're 30 minutes late (because there's no sign of pax), how are we to distinguish the difference between PAX being late, or god forbid, another 397QS...

We need to know you're ok... you're like our childrens!
 
Iflyyou

Hey, Man- I really appreciate you posting this info. It clears up many of the unknowns of this place. Thanks again and keep posting.
 
Live4flyng said:
According to the FOM, there is standby at the airport, and standby away from the airport. We just follow the rules as crazy as they are often.

Is your FOM up to date? If so, scribble out any words that say 'standby'... the term no longer exists.

You can only be 2 things: On duty and off duty. You can be on duty at 4 different places: FBO, Hotel, Terminal, and home.

In the old days, If you were standby, you were not on duty and your showtime could be whenever. Reup your room, hang out, do whatever. If we needed you, we'd call. Be ready to go at a moment's notice.

Nowadays, if you show at the FBO and have nothing to do, technically you are not on standby... you are on duty. Big difference... You'll have a showtime, and eventually, you'll have a shutdown time. Once you get your shutdown time, that's it. We cannot call you under any circumstances after that shutdown time expires (unless in an 'emergency' situation).

Live4flyng said:
Go ahead and file with "ExecJet" in the remarks section as a call sign, they may accept it.

I'm just crazy enough to try it...

furloughedaa said:
Hey, Man- I really appreciate you posting this info. It clears up many of the unknowns of this place. Thanks again and keep posting.

You're welcome... :)

IFlyOU said:
Q: My first day out brief sucks! Can I change it?
A: Maybe. Again if you're not attached to a tail, we may be able to change your showtime. Call us the day before and we may be able to 'rebrief' you for something better.

I almost forgot... ask us if we can change your show location as well. Mmmm, show at home...

If you live within 1 hour of your gateway, then we can approve a show at home (it might be a half hour... it's written down somewhere... I'll check into it and get back). Again, you will be 'on duty' (not standby). This is to help keep you guys from sitting in a room with nothing to do all day. PLEASE call in the day before and ask us to approve it. I've done my share of sitting around... and I know how badly it sucks...

It's perfectly legal. How awesome is that? If crew services asks you 'how far are you from the gateway', please don't lie (I've been burned on it a couple of times by guys that say there 15 minutes away that are really 3 hours)... It takes us 2 seconds to find your driving time and distance in the computer since we have all addresses on file.

We will most likely approve a show at home if you are not assigned to any aircraft and/or don't have a partner... but have your bags packed just in case...

Remeber: When you're off duty, we cannot call you... but you can call us. Asking to change your showtime is a great communication tool. We can pair you up to replace someone who DNIF'd, or dump an airplane to you to pair up with someone we hadn't previously noticed.

If everyone did this, we would defiantly see a decrease in the number of sellofs. It may be small, but it would help. The more you guys communicate to us, the more efficent we will become... because like I said earlier... coming out with first day out showtimes isn't an exact science...

Again all, I really appriciate the number of questions you have privately sent me. I don't want you to feel like you're being left in the dark on a lot of these issues... Because I know many of you do. By all means, ask away! I'll do the best I can to answer them.
 
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Is your FOM up to date? If so, scribble out any words that say 'standby'... the term no longer exists.
Do you have an FOM? You might want to flip to page A1-51 section A1-20.2 and brush up on company policy. There are two different types of standby, away from the airport, and at the airport. Our FOMs have to be up to date, the FEDs require it. If the FOM is wrong, maybe you can have "Just Gary" change it for us.

Remeber: When you're off duty, we cannot call you... but you can call us. Asking to change your showtime is a great communication tool. We can pair you up to replace someone who DNIF'd, or dump an airplane to you to pair up with someone we hadn't previously noticed.

If everyone did this, we would defiantly see a decrease in the number of sellofs. It may be small, but it would help. The more you guys communicate to us, the more efficent we will become... because like I said earlier... coming out with first day out showtimes isn't an exact science...
Ain't gonna happen until a contract is agreed to.
 
You are starting to sound like management

<<Remember: When you're off duty, we cannot call you... but you can call us. Asking to change your showtime is a great communication tool. We can pair you up to replace someone who DNIF'd, or dump an airplane to you to pair up with someone we hadn't previously noticed.>>

Try as you might to entice us to call in on our off time, won't happen. The pilots are more dedicated to getting a fair contract as I previously mentioned.
 
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Live4flyng said:
Spare me your BS dude. Who said anyone was pushing me around? If you would open your eyes and shut your cake hole for a few minutes, you would realize I was responding to one of his Q & A sessions about going to Canada and calling CANPASS 2 hours in advance. Trying to point out that often it can't be done the way things are scheduled and then you get the ETD pages after explaining it over the phone. By the way, who the Fk are you to tell me to act like a captain, worry about yourself.

You're pretty bitter and pissed off. How's that working out for you? BTW, have a nice day. :rolleyes:
 
FracCapt said:
You're pretty bitter and pissed off. How's that working out for you? BTW, have a nice day. :rolleyes:
About the same as it is for you, only slightly better. You have a nice day too.
 

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