Night currency

[schmitty340]

I read in the regs that if you are night current ( 3 T/O landings in 90 days) for the purpose of carrying passengers under 121 for a particular type, Then you are also current for all other types under 91. So here is my question.

If I am night current in a SF-340 under 121 and wanted to take a student up in a C-172 at night, do I need to do 3 T/O and landings at night in the C-172? The reg I am reffering to is under 91 and is toward the end of the currency topic. The problem is that it refers to type, and not catagory and class. I am current in the C-172 during day.

Thanx
schmitty340

 

[midlifeflyer]

I have a funny feeling that this is one of those where the way the exception is worded can be a little confusing.

I'm pretty sure (but not certain) that 61.67(e) is meant to say that if you meet the stated Part 121 requirements you don't have to meet the Part 61 requirement when " engaged in a flight operation under part 91, 121, or 135 for that air carrier"

I don't think it means that if you meet Part 121 requirements you are automatically current in a CE-172 not connected with the carrier.

I think that you are left with the general rule that landing currency in 61.57 is also category class specific. If I'm not mistaken (I'm not that good with advances A/C types), the SF-340 is multiengine (class) airplane, while the CE-172 is a single.

Weird as it may seem, having landing currency in a multi doesn't not equal currency for a single.

 

[Radiohofo]

Night Currency

I undertand you're asking a question for Reg clarification, so don't get thin skinned when I say just go fly a C-172 at night,perform three t/o and landings to a full stop with an instructor onboard and save your self the hassle when a FAA fella walks up to you on the ramp. Saab 340 v. C-172 two completely different animals. Half an hour of plane rental or suspension, you decide.

Radiohofo

 

[Lead Sled]

I have to agree with Midlifeflyer...

This very question comes up from time to time where I work and the word that we've alway got is that it is indeed category and class specific. You'll have to go do some landings in your C-172.

Lead Sled

 

[avbug]

Simple answer; you're not night current in the 172. The landings are, as others have noted, category and class specific. You are current in a multi engine land airplane...not a single engine land airplane.

Midlifeflyer is correct in his assertion that the exception granted to a pilot in command under 121 or 135 doesn't apply here, as that exception is only allowable when performing flights for your certificate holder. If you conduct flight instruction privately, or even a personal flight with passengers, then you your 121 proficiency and currency does not apply, unless it falls within the guidelines of 61.57(a)&(b).

In this case, your 121 experience and currency does not meet the requirements of 61.57(a)&(b); you must get current in the Cessna.


Do the landings in the 172.

 

[igneousy2]

I undertand you're asking a question for Reg clarification, so don't get thin skinned when I say just go fly a C-172 at night,perform three t/o and landings to a full stop with an instructor onboard and save your self the hassle when a FAA fella walks up to you on the ramp. Saab 340 v. C-172 two completely different animals. Half an hour of plane rental or suspension, you decide.

Radiohofo

Technically you don't even need an instructor...just 3 stop & gos if you feel confident.

I didn't fly light aircraft for 4 years, when I went back, I needed about 4-5 hours of solid instruction to get back in the grove. If you start flaring as you cross the threshold like you do in the saab you will bend the airplane.

Later

 

[Radiohofo]

Your right, technically you don't need an instructor and I never said you had to have one. I merely implied that doing the maneuvers with an instructor will be smarter, more time efficient, safer and shows professional judgement. I should have been more clear.


Radiohofo