Nice job ASA

[CRJ Skillz]

As I said before, if everyone here at ASA would just have some faith in our mangament, everything will work out!

Trust me!

Why is it that everytime I fly, my on time perf is around 90% in ATL! Whats so hard about you lazy pilots doing your job while in ATL to get things done. Their are more than 1 ways to skin a cat. Meaning, their are other ways to getting your fuel, ice, catering, whatever. Just use your brain! Oh wait, I forgot, majority of our pilots dont have 1.:laugh:

 

[COOPERVANE]

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[atlcrjdriver]

Thankfully, none of the cpts I have flown with share this minimalist philosophy. Do only what I have to do and go home. The only peolple that are hurt by this are your passengers that pay your salary. All last month 80% of our delays were due to ATC, WX and MTC. We had an average on-time of about 75-80%. We never had to go above and beyond like loading bags, but we did get the job done professionally.

 

[COOPERVANE]

I am asking because I don't know, not to prove a point.

The current agreement with Delta/ASA/Skywest? requires 80% of all Delta feeder flying to be performed by ASA. This has been pointed out numerous times by those saying that Skywest can't shrink/take ASA flying from ATL.

My question is this: Is Atkin smart enough to get around this agreement, and has this been his plan all along? No way he could hire/train 2000 pilots to fly ATL if we all walked, but what if he takes it 10-20 planes at a time? Once he has most/all of ATL flying he can advise his pilots of his need to lower pay by 20% or find another job.

Either ASA is bluffing, or we are shrinking, either way I will not vote for a contract that reduces our pay. At least I can say I didn't cave if they end up taking us out anyway!!

 

[D'Angelo]

How did ASA piss on Comair?

Because you keep whining and screaming at us about how we did whats best for us.

 

[D'Angelo]

How do you figure? You are jackoffffff!!!

ASA pilots are now simply put too arrogant. They refuse to change with the times just like alpa. They are doomed to fail if they can't learn from recent history.

 

[atrdriver]

Because you keep whining and screaming at us about how we did whats best for us.

Just crawl back into your hole.

 

[Tomct]

CRJ, you are such an idiot! I am glad to hear that you like .."grabbing your ankles..." I think that there is a stall in the ATL mens room waiting for you!

 

[atlcrashpad]

Fly the Book. ATL ramp will do the rest. Nothing illegal, just sit back and let the rest of the company waste time, they're good at being terrible.

 

[www.]

Thankfully, none of the cpts I have flown with share this minimalist philosophy. Do only what I have to do and go home. The only peolple that are hurt by this are your passengers that pay your salary. All last month 80% of our delays were due to ATC, WX and MTC. We had an average on-time of about 75-80%. We never had to go above and beyond like loading bags, but we did get the job done professionally.

MGT 101, abuse and over work the people that will work the hardest so you don't have to fix the real problems.

 

[urflyingme?!]

ASA guys.... don't give up.

 

[wms]

The bad day on 6/8 probably had more to do with the big summer schedule change than anything else. It happens every year. Lots of new destinations and lots of schedule changes. There were a lot of up line delays also because the stations didn't know about some of our changes and new RONs.

 

[D'Angelo]

Ummm also "slowing the airline down" is super retarded. You make them lose money which means less profits which means less arguments for your raise. Pilots are always their own worst enemy.

 

[jayme]

Pilots are always their own worst enemy.

So either you're your own worst enemy or you're not really a pilot.

 

[John Pennekamp]

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And CRJ Skillz with his multiple personality disorder too.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Fly the Book. ATL ramp will do the rest. Nothing illegal, just sit back and let the rest of the company waste time, they're good at being terrible.

Exactly. We don't need to do a work slowdown. We just need to sit quietly on our planes and "let the 'system' work". Don't call for crap, just sit there all day. Do only your job and no one else's. Let dispatch and maintenance make stupid decisions... don't help them out.

The ATL operation will crumble in a week, I guarantee you. In '98, the company was BEGGING the NMB to resume negotiations after two months. Then they quickly settled.

 

[D'Angelo]

The question is this then? Why do you only "fly the books" when your trying to get something you want? Is it not your job to always "fly the books" carry on

 

[John Pennekamp]

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What?... couldn't hear you, LOL!

 

[atlcrjdriver]

Tomct, I have never bent over for anyone anywhere and I am not going to start know. I care deeply for this profession this company and the passengers I carry. I will do all that I can to protect all three. With that said, to harm one to simply prove a point is not worth it. All you are doing is sitting there to say, I told you so while your passengers suffer.

 

[MJ42]

Thankfully, none of the cpts I have flown with share this minimalist philosophy. Do only what I have to do and go home. The only peolple that are hurt by this are your passengers that pay your salary. All last month 80% of our delays were due to ATC, WX and MTC. We had an average on-time of about 75-80%. We never had to go above and beyond like loading bags, but we did get the job done professionally.

The only smart post in this in this whole thread! If I were as bitter as some on this board I'd leave the industry. In fact, I had left flying for a few years(not by choice) and it was the worst years of my working life. Job market is good right now outside of aviation if you have a good education. I personally think that most on this board will not be able to make as much money outside of aviation(1st year pay aside). Please don't take this as saying things don't need to change, they do! QOL, schedules, pay and overall treatment of all employees needs improvement. The question is, how do we do this without shooting ourselves in the foot? Unfortunately, I don't have an answer. I know slamming each other on here doesn't help, only constructive ideas that have unified backing will solve the hardest issues.(Obvious statement but we often lose sight of what needs to be done, don't let anger and resentment take control rational thinking.)