New UAL/CAL pass travel program announced

[ualdriver]

https://skynet.ual.com/combined/content.jsp?SID=FlyingTogether_Travel&path=/links/index.jsp

There is the link. After a cursory glance, it looks pretty similar to what UAL had already. The retirees no longer board at a higher boarding priority if they had greater than 25 years of service (I think) at the time of retirement and now board at a lower priority. That's a bummer as I was looking forward to that little perk someday.

No more ridiculous higher management boarding priority.

Also, we will get "vacation passes" which will allow you to travel, space available, at the highest boarding priority. So if you use these passes, your family would travel at a higher priority than the guy with 30 years seniority, unless he uses his vacation passes too.

We will still be able to buy regular, positive space tickets on the airline with a 20% discount, which is something we use quite a bit and is nice.

Also, apparently each employee will be receiving 25,000 frequent flier miles for their frequent flyer account, whether an existing account or a new one.

Lots of other details, too. Check the link.

 

[ATRCA]

Some good things here, some bad. It certainly looks as though they tried to incorporate policies from both companies existing pass travel systems. I thought the new policy would be worse than this. It's ok at best, but better than I expected from Jeff's management team. That's not an endorsement btw...

 

[whatitdoing?]

I don't know what to make of it. I guess it's "better". I just buy a ticket these days and fully expect to extend my life by 2 days. At least the gummers don't go in front of us anymore. There would of been a riot if that went through. But a ticket you GUMMERS!!! Jeez......

 

[UC35Pilot]

Are there any limitations with use while on MLA?

 

[Cpt Oveur]

One big thing: can you see the non rev list like on employeeRes or is it a game of Russian Roulette like on weblist?

 

[rtseatrich]

So commuting to a hub next year will be a Beotch for Jr. employees.

I can hardly wait to be bumped by an Employee's Spouse and Kids when I'm trying to go to work.

That's right Spouses and dependents travel at the same boarding priority as the employee whether or not the employee is traveling with or without them.

This is big change from the current CAL non-rev policy.
Working for UAL and Jeff Lorenzo isn't going to be pleasant.

 

[dojetdriver]

But a ticket you GUMMERS!!! Jeez......

Well, guess what? Not EVERY retired employee was a pilot pulling 6 figures when then banged out. Many were just regular airline workers making standard middle class wages. And spare me the argument "well, if they wanted to make the money they should have been pilots" B.S. That's not what it's about.

And take a second guess, they lost their retirement, as well as had their ESOP go down the drain as well. So the idea of "gummers buying tickets" simply isn't a feasible option for many. In some cases, it's simply NOT to travel at all due to the lack of a benefit they thought would be there when they retired, on an income they thought would be there when they left.

I'm NOT saying that the retirees should have gone to the top, just making the point that you think EVERY retired airline employee has the money to buy tickets whenever they may want to travel/visit family.

Never ceases to amaze me what selfish pricks pilots can be.

 

[Dan Roman]

So commuting to a hub next year will be a Beotch for Jr. employees.

I can hardly wait to be bumped by an Employee's Spouse and Kids when I'm trying to go to work.

That's right Spouses and dependents travel at the same boarding priority as the employee whether or not the employee is traveling with or without them.

This is big change from the current CAL non-rev policy.
Working for UAL and Jeff Lorenzo isn't going to be pleasant.

Let me get this straight, someone has 20 years at the company and their wife is non reving somewhere and you think some new hire employee should be able to bump them? That's how it is at CO? YGTBSM

 

[Dan Roman]

Well, guess what? Not EVERY retired employee was a pilot pulling 6 figures when then banged out. Many were just regular airline workers making standard middle class wages. And spare me the argument "well, if they wanted to make the money they should have been pilots" B.S. That's not what it's about.

And take a second guess, they lost their retirement, as well as had their ESOP go down the drain as well. So the idea of "gummers buying tickets" simply isn't a feasible option for many. In some cases, it's simply NOT to travel at all due to the lack of a benefit they thought would be there when they retired, on an income they thought would be there when they left.

I'm NOT saying that the retirees should have gone to the top, just making the point that you think EVERY retired airline employee has the money to buy tickets whenever they may want to travel/visit family.

Never ceases to amaze me what selfish pricks pilots can be.

Well said.

 

[CesnaCaptn]

So commuting to a hub next year will be a Beotch for Jr. employees.

I take it you guys don't have commuter passes? You might want to negotiate that (not that you don't bigger things to worry about). A commuter at Alaska who has designated his home airport and is traveling to his domicile, flies standby with priority above all other nonrevers. I've been at the top of a 30 SA list before.