New Transpac expansion for Hawaiian in Fall

[plucky]

Any chance that 22 pilots off the List will not be enough?



http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/May/04/br/br11p.html

 

[Whale Rider]

Congrates guys! Expansion is good!

 

[Maui4]

I hope that that Hawaiian recalls everyone so that they can start hiring soon. I'm a Shorts 360 Captain at Transair and waiting for Hawaiian too. My dad is a 767 Captain and he has told me to wait it out because big things are going to happen at Hawaiian soon.

 

[Hypoxik]

Maui 4..is that the orange tail or green?

 

['72Gremlin]

Any word on where those destinations will be?

 

[plucky]

Destinations

http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2006/05/01/daily52.html?jst=b_ln_hl

 

[Erndogg]

Hawaiian Airlines Expanding West Coast-Hawaii Service
San Diego, Seattle, Portland, Sacramento and Los Angeles to Get More Flights

HONOLULU, May 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Responding to consumer demand and with four more Boeing 767-300 jets joining its fleet this fall, Hawaiian Airlines, a subsidiary of Hawaiian Holdings, Inc. (Amex: HA; PCX), today announced a significant expansion of its service to Hawaii from San Diego, Seattle, Portland, Sacramento and Los Angeles (see schedule below).
Mark Dunkerley, Hawaiian's president and CEO, commented, "Our fleet expansion is allowing us to better accommodate the strong demand for our wide-body service to Hawaii."
Hawaiian is recalling 22 furloughed pilots and -- having previously recalled all remaining furloughed flight attendants -- is hiring approximately 100 new flight attendants to support the added flying. "In addition to helping us spread our costs over a wider revenue base, this expansion allows us to bring back more of our furloughed employees, which is an important goal," Dunkerley added.
Hawaiian had the highest load factor of all airlines nationally in both 2004 and 2005, and has retained its standing as the industry leader in load factor through the first quarter of this year.
Starting September 6, Hawaiian is expanding its daily nonstop San Diego-Maui service from summer flights only to service year-round. On October 13, Hawaiian is increasing both its nonstop Seattle-Maui and Portland-Maui flights to daily service, resulting in seven new flights per week to Maui from the Pacific Northwest's gateway cities.
Beginning November 19, Hawaiian is adding four weekly flights to its nonstop Sacramento-Honolulu daily service increasing to 11 the total number of weekly flights. Also that day, Hawaiian is expanding its Seattle-Honolulu service with three additional flights per week, bringing to 10 the total number of weekly flights served on this route.
For summer 2007, Hawaiian is converting one of its Los Angeles-Honolulu flights from four flights weekly to daily service to accommodate peak summer travel demand and increase nonstop service of its most popular route to three flights daily.
Tickets for the new flights can be booked and purchased online at HawaiianAirlines.com, or by calling Hawaiian's reservations department at the toll-free number of 1-800-367-5320, or from Oahu at 838-1555.

SAN DIEGO-MAUI (effective September 6)
This service increases to daily flights year-round from its current summer-only schedule, which begins June 9.
FLIGHT DEPARTURE ARRIVAL DAYS HA 37 San Diego, CA - 8:50am Kahului, Maui - 11:20am DAILY HA 38 Kahului, Maui - 1:50pm San Diego, CA - 9:55pm

DAILY SEATTLE-MAUI (effective October 13)This service increases to daily flights year-round; it currently operates four times weekly.
FLIGHT DEPARTURE ARRIVAL DAYS HA 29 Seattle, WA - 10:15am Kahului, Maui - 1:05pm DAILY HA 30 Kahului, Maui - 2:35pm Seattle, WA - 11:00pm

DAILY PORTLAND-MAUI (effective October 13)This service increases to daily flights year-round; it currently operates three times weekly.
FLIGHT DEPARTURE ARRIVAL DAYS HA 39 Portland, OR - 9:50am Kahului, Maui - 12:20pm DAILY HA 40 Kahului, Maui - 12:50pm Portland, OR - 9:05pm

DAILY SACRAMENTO-HONOLULU (effective November 19)This flight operates four times weekly and will complement Hawaiian's existing daily service, increasing the total number of flights between Sacramento and Honolulu to 11 per week.
FLIGHT DEPARTURE ARRIVAL DAYS HA 47 Sacramento, CA - 10:35am Honolulu, HI - 1:55pm MO-TU-TH-SA HA 46 Honolulu, HI - 3:30pm Sacramento, CA - 10:35pm SU-MO-WE-FR SEATTLE-HONOLULU (effective November 19)This flight operates three times weekly through May and will complement Hawaiian's existing daily service, bringing the total number of flights between Seattle and Honolulu to 10 per week.

FLIGHT DEPARTURE ARRIVAL DAYS HA 27 Seattle, WA - 11:30am Honolulu, HI - 3:25pm WE-FR-SU HA 28 Honolulu, HI - 10:15pm Seattle, WA - 5:50am TU-TH-SA LOS ANGELES-HONOLULU (effective Summer 2007)This service increases to daily flights for the peak summer travel season; it currently operates four times weekly.

FLIGHT DEPARTURE ARRIVAL DAYS HA 3 Los Angeles, CA - 10:25am Honolulu, HI - 2:00pm DAILY HA 4 Honolulu, HI - 11:25pm Los Angeles, CA - 6:30am DAILY

Hawaiian was the nation's number one carrier for on-time service, fewest flight cancellations and best baggage service reliability in 2005, according to reports by the U.S. Department of Transportation. Consumer travel surveys conducted by Conde Nast Traveler, Travel + Leisure, and Zagat all rank Hawaiian as the top domestic airline serving Hawaii.
Now in its 77th year of continuous service in Hawaii, Hawaiian is the state's biggest and longest-serving airline, and the second largest provider of passenger air service between Hawaii and the U.S. mainland. Hawaiian offers nonstop service to Hawaii from more U.S. gateway cities than any other airline (nine), as well as service to Australia, American Samoa and Tahiti. Hawaiian also provides approximately 100 daily jet flights among the Hawaiian Islands.
Hawaiian Airlines, Inc. is a subsidiary of Hawaiian Holdings, Inc. (Amex: HA; PCX). Additional information is available at HawaiianAirlines.com.
SOURCE
Hawaiian Airlines
05/04/2006

CONTACT:
Keoni Wagner of Hawaiian Airlines,
1-808-838-6778,
[email protected]

 

[HAL]

Any chance that 22 pilots off the List will not be enough?

I'd say there's just about every chance that we're not enough. 22 pilots for three new (active) aircraft equals about 7 pilots per plane. They normally staff at 12 or 14 per plane. The company says that they're overstaffed, and they are - by the staffing formula. The real world is another story. Day after day the reserve availability listed from the day before shows "none" on a LOT of the staffing slots, and it will only get worse. At some point they'll run out of guys willing to do recall at double pay and they'll have to cancel a flight. Then they'll huff and puff saying that we're not being 'productive' enough, and use that as their excuse to bring more back.

Until then we're all going to have a busy summer.

HAL

 

[mdanno808]

IMHO this is what's going on. There are a bunch of planes (4?) whose leases expire over the next few years, and these planes are being negotiated with Ansett. I think that the skimpy recalls are due to the fact that these planes have not been secured, and big recalls would only equal big furloughs should we lose four planes over the next 2 years (4 new planes on the property, and four old planes back to the owners equalls no growth). My prediction is that once these planes are secured, the recalls will start. At least I hope so. I also think that if everyone would stop with the recall flying there would be a few more recalls as well.

 

[skid]

Maybe I missed it in on an eariler message but how many pilots are currently on furlough?

 

[Hansoma]

Before the recall there were 98. 22 recalls, 76 still furloughed.

 

[bruddahgoose]

Are the 22 recalls enough for all the new expansion? I just hope for the best for you guys!
And what's happening over at Aloha's? Rumor has it that there may be some recalls soon for the summer?

 

[HAL]

Are the 22 recalls enough for all the new expansion?

By the letter of the staffing formula, 22 is enough. There are three new airplanes flying, and one spare. They staff at roughly 6 crews (12 pilots) per plane, which would require 36 pilots. They "say" they are overstaffed by 13 or 14, so 36 - 14 = 22. This would put them at a "zero" staffing level for the first time ever once all the planes are flying. However they are already running extraordinarly lean now, with just about every day having zero available reserve on one shift or another. As danno said it doesn't help when there are guys picking up the open trips for double time. But in reality, when those planes are here and flying with a staffing level that's 14 less than they have now, there will be problems. Hopefully they'll recognize the problems far enough in advance to get more people through training before the crunch hits.

And as for the Ansett planes going away, Dunkerley said it is a total of 7 planes involved between the first half of '07 and the first half of '08. It could get very interesting around here

HAL

 

[mdanno808]

Hawaiian Airlines: Q1 loss of $12.3M

Pacific Business News (Honolulu) - 3:11 PM HAST Monday

http://pacific.bizjournals.com/pacific/popular.html?t=emailed
Hawaiian Holdings Inc. (Amex: HA; PCX), the parent company of Hawaiian Airlines, reported a net loss of $12.3 million for the first three months of this year.
The local airline's operating revenue increased 11 percent to $210 million in the quarter primarily due to increase in load factor and tighter operational budget.
The airline blames its losses on high fuel prices and intense competition in the local and trans-Pacific routes it serves. Come June, the airline will face even more competition on its interisland route from Mesa Air's new airline, go!, and already has offered fares of $39 each way. Hawaiian expects to compensate for that with more service to West Coast cities, when it adds four planes to its fleet.
"We remain committed to our strategic direction and are focused on taking the tactical steps necessary to improve our financial performance in what we anticipate will remain a challenging environment in the near term," said Mark Dunkerley, Hawaiian's president and CEO.
The airline, which emerged from bankruptcy last June, changed its accounting methods then, which doesn't allow for direct comparisons. Hawaiian Holdings reported no income during the bankruptcy since it was deconsolidated from the airline. The airline became part of the holding company again after June 2, 2005, when it emerged from bankruptcy.
The airline's scheduled operations saw a 10.5 percent increase in revenue passenger miles to 1,625.8 million.
Operating revenue per available seat mile increased 5.7 percent to 11.06 cents from 10.46 cents in first quarter of 2005.
Correspondingly, operating cost per available seat mile increased 11.7 percent to 11.3 cents from 10.12 cents. The cost of operations without fuel averaged at 8.3 cents (8 cents in Q1 2005).
As a result of higher fuel costs, the company's operating expenses increased 17.1 percent to $214.3 million in Q1 this year compared to $183.1 million last year. Fuel charges accounted for $57 million, a $18.6 million increase.
Additional expenses include engine overhauls that added a $2.7 million tab to the $16.8 million for repairs and maintenance; and $1.6 million in professional fees to comply with the Sarbanes-Oxley Act.
At the end of the quarter, the airline holds $153.7 million in unrestricted cash.

 

[Lolikoka]

Hawaii cost of living and pilot pay

I used to live in Paradise and would give a gonad (or two) to go back. But my conern is trying to support a family on airline pay out there. Do Aloha or Hawaiian pay enough to survive and plan for the future?

Waiting for hiring to start again...

 

[mdanno808]

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/hawaiian-2005030453.htm

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/aloha-2005030460.htm

Yeah, you can survive.

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/hawaiian-2005030453.htm

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/aloha-2005030460.htm

Yeah, you can survive.

Yep, Aloha's pay for the 700 is almost as much as everyone else's these days, minus SWA, but who is more than SWA..LOL Hawaiian looks to be the highest paid B767 drivers around, bar none....Not bad for two Nationals!!

 

[dash8driver]

I used to live in Paradise and would give a gonad (or two) to go back. But my conern is trying to support a family on airline pay out there. Do Aloha or Hawaiian pay enough to survive and plan for the future?

Waiting for hiring to start again...

if you gave two gonads to come out, you wouldnt have to worry about supporting a family..unless you've already started.

yes they do pay enough to survive, but that of course also depends on your lifestyle. first year pay will be pretty rough so have some money saved up and have a plan to get yourself through the first year.



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[English]

Pay enough to survive? Sure, if you shack up with your family...otherwise watch out for the next round of paycuts when oil hits $80 a barrel...

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

Pay enough to survive? Sure, if you shack up with your family...otherwise watch out for the next round of paycuts when oil hits $80 a barrel...

If and when oil hits $80 a barrel everyone will need to posture. This coming from a disgruntled ex Aloha employee. Take it for what its worth. Glad to see you left, or was that furloughed.:bawling:

 

[English]

Not disgruntled and not furloughed. Ya gotta remember that first year pay was 26k a year...so you tell me how the pay is enough to survive...

Funny how if someone disagrees they become "disgruntled"...disgruntled is what I would be if I were still there. Now I'm happy

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

So how is it any different at any other airline based in NY or LAX or SFO, shall I go on, who makes first year pay? Just targeting AQ and HA. Sounds disgruntled to me. Glad you're happy, living in paradise in great weather with great beaches and cool flying, domestic or ETOP's is not for everyone.