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hoover

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If I could wave my magic wand...

Duty Periods
Scheduled for no longer than 10 hours. To give carriers flexibility during irregular ops, it may be extended to 12 hours with consent of crew member.

No extension for duty "back side of the clock" operations.

Rest Periods
At least 12 hours, plus 1 hour for every time zone change. For example if you start in New York and end in California, the rest period is at least 15 hours

At least 1 calendar day free from duty every 5 calendar days.

Flight Time
No flight time limits

The above would apply to all duty periods, whether they be flying duty, training events, or deadheads.

Fire Away!
 
10 hour duty periods? Do you have difficulty remaining awake for more than 10 hours? I guess you're new rules are Domestic only, as I just returned to NRT from BNE and the FLIGHT time was over 10 hours.
 
Resocha said:
10 hour duty periods? Do you have difficulty remaining awake for more than 10 hours? I guess you're new rules are Domestic only, as I just returned to NRT from BNE and the FLIGHT time was over 10 hours.

Yeah but didn't you have a relief pilot on that flight? I doubt you were awake for all 10 hours of flight time.

To answer the question, no I don't have a problem staying awake more than 10 hours, but I think it safe to say that people are not as sharp mentally at hour 10 then they were at hour 1.
 
hoover said:
Yeah but didn't you have a relief pilot on that flight? I doubt you were awake for all 10 hours of flight time.

To answer the question, no I don't have a problem staying awake more than 10 hours, but I think it safe to say that people are not as sharp mentally at hour 10 then they were at hour 1.

Sorry, I just re-read my note and didn't mean to sound like a d*ck.

You're kind of correct: no relief pilot, but it is a 3-person crew. However, one leg of 13 hours is much less work than 7 legs in 13 hours, as is common in the regionals. My point is that blanket rules aren't necessary for every operation. I am perfectly fine working 10-12 hours, with one leg. In my former job, we'd do a 14-hour day with 6-plus legs. Those are the operations that need regulatory modernization.
 
And if pilots work less, more pilots will be hired to cover the new time off, the revenue will not increase due to no increase in flying. Therefore there will be less money for pilot salaries due to the increase in pilots on the payroll. Pilots will have to be paid less, or ticket prices will go up which force the marginal flyer to an alternate form of transportation. This will again reduce the money coming into the airplane with a resultant in the number of pilots employed. There is down side to every action.
 

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