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Good for safety, bad for our paychecks I've heard.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...id=msnmoney&industry=IND_TRANSPORTATION&isub=

Regulations designed to reduce fatigue among airline pilots will be announced tomorrow at 10 a.m. in Washington, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration said in a statement. The agency last year proposed to give pilots more rest between shifts and reduce the maximum hours they could work each day. The proposed rule would have given airlines more latitude to assign pilots additional flight time, as many as 10 hours instead of the current eight-hour limit.
The proposal has been under review by the White House Office of Management and Budget. Cargo airlines have argued their pilots should be exempt and pilot unions have supported the rule, according to filings in the government docket.
The rule will be the first change in the 1940s-era regulations since they were amended in 1985.



http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...id=msnmoney&industry=IND_TRANSPORTATION&isub=
 
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10 a.m. PILOT FATIGUE RULE — Transportation Secretaryt Ray LaHood and Federal Aviation Administration Acting Administrator Michael Huerta will hold a press conference to release the final pilot fatigue rule. Following the press conference, there will be a pen and pad background briefing with FAA technical experts to answer questions about the details of the new regulation.
Location: U.S. Department of Transportation, The Marx Media Center, 1200 New Jersey Ave. SE.
 
GOD please don't let them have gutted the cargo rest rules... We so need a one level of safety mindset in regulation, it's long over due.
 
The airlines will win and we will get screwed, I saw this coming. We will be better rested by flying more hours in a duty period, that makes perfect sense. If there is any improved rest period language it will be based on a "scheduled" plan but allow for exceptions under actual conditions i.e. reduced rest provisions so when you need the rest the most you won't get it. Back in the day when unions still had some negotiating leverage this was less of an issue because CBA's did what the FAR's didn't. Now many airlines schedule to the FAR's.

I hope I'm wrong but I don't think we are going to be happy with what we see, it's going to be designed with the economic interests of the airlines in mind first and safety a distant second because corporations have the power in Washington and employees/unions don't.
 
HAHHAHA

" The FAA will allow cargo airlines to fly under either the old or new rules."

I cant wait for Ron Paul to win and gut this useless Federal Government...
 
HAHHAHA

" The FAA will allow cargo airlines to fly under either the old or new rules."

I cant wait for Ron Paul to win and gut this useless Federal Government...

exactly! ******************** it! I mean if it can't Regulate properly then it shouldn't regulate at all.... Government for the highest bidder! That is what we have here ladies and gentleman in the USA!
 
I cant wait for Ron Paul to win and gut this useless Federal Government...
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read. You're pissed off about watered down regulations, so you want to elect a guy who believes in no regulations.

Great logic there, bud.
 
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read. You're pissed off about watered down regulations, so you want to elect a guy who believes in no regulations.

Great logic there, bud.

I said that last part just to piss off morons like you.
 
When we see our new rules, we'll see how well the Airlines did paying off the lawmakers.
Just like the previous poster stated Scheduled rest may increase from 8-9 hours but, actual flight and duty periods will increase. I'm willing to bet that regional airline managers are excited about the new way to get extra productivity out of us and slim down the pilot ranks a little more. I'm sure this will be the catalyst for more "right sizing", "reduction in soft time", and my personal favorite, "It doesn't matter how we got here" excuses to take a little more of our future away.
I know it sounds cynical, but if its the truth, we as a profession will go the way of the buggy whip.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong.
 

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