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GogglesPisano

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Scary stuff. No wonder we don't last long after retirement.


NYT

For Frequent Fliers, a Radiation Risk in the SkiesBy MATTHEW L. WALD
Despite recent concern about whether airline passengers get a potentially dangerous dose of radiation from the new security scanners at the airport checkpoints, the real risk is after you board the plane, according to two new publications.


Associated Press

A backscatter machine in Phoenix.The first is an effort by the federal government to knock down concerns about the “backscatter” X-ray machines that the Transportation Security Administration is planning to use as a primary screening tool at airports around the country. Unlike diagnostic X-rays that doctors send through the body, these go through the clothes and bounce back, so the machine can create an image of the traveler under the clothing.

Last Monday a White House blog drew attention to a long and lavishly footnoted letter from the Food and Drug Administration seeking to rebut concerns about the machines that had been raised by scientists at the University of California, San Francisco.

The California scientists said that this technology was new and largely untested and that the dose of radiation would be concentrated on the skin, not spread through the body as in a conventional X-ray.
But the F.D.A., in a letter addressed to John P. Holdren, the president’s science adviser, insisted that the X-ray generator was virtually the same as one that had been in use for years and that the concentration of the dose on the skin was not large.
The devices meet the standard for a “general use” X-ray machine, meaning that a person would have to have 1,000 scans a year before approaching the maximum allowed dose for members of the general public, the letter said. Scientists have linked higher doses to increased cancer risk.

“The potential health risks from a full-body screening with a general-use X-ray security system are minuscule,” the agency said. The scanners are under challenge by the Electronic Privacy Information Center, which says they are ineffective and invasive, but that is not a health issue.

The second publication explains that flying in an airplane also involves a radiation dose — in this case from the sun and the stars. A paper that will appear in the December issue of the Employee Responsibilities and Rights Journal, a peer-reviewed publication, argues that travelers who fly 85,000 miles a year or more should be classified as radiation workers.

At airliner altitudes, exposure to radiation from the sun and the stars can be hundreds of times higher than on the surface of the earth, where the atmosphere filters out radiation. “Airline crew members flying long-haul high-altitude routes receive, on average, greater exposures than the typical radiation workers in ground-based industries where radioactive sources or radiation producing machines are used,’’ write the authors, Robert J. Barish, a medical radiation expert, and Stephan Dilchert, an assistant professor at the business school at Baruch College of City University of New York.

In fact, business frequent fliers “may easily exceed the allowable levels of exposure that are enforced as a matter of law for medical and industrial facilities where radiation is encountered,” the paper said, citing estimates of dose from the Federal Aviation Administration.

Classifying employees as radiation workers would allow their continued exposure to higher limits. But this would also require that the exposure be monitored and that employees receive information on the estimated risks.

Flying round trip from New York to Tokyo seven times a year would put a passenger or crew member at the limit enforced at industrial sites, the authors said..
 
San Francisco -- A group of researchers led by NASA, in collaboration with Space Environment Technologies, Inc., the National Center for Atmospheric Resarch (NCAR), and Dartmouth College, are building a model that can predict the solar and cosmic radiation exposure for crews and passengers on commercial airline flights. Researchers will be presenting their preliminary work at the American Geophysical Union meeting in San Francisco on Friday, Dec. 19.

While it may not be commonly known, airline flight crews are currently classified as "radiation workers," a federal designation that means they are consistently exposed to radiation. Flight crews on high-latitude routes, in fact, are exposed to more radiation on an annual basis than nuclear plant workers....
 
Doesn't window glass filter out a lot of the bad stuff?

NO, definitely not and pilots who spend most of their career in the left seat have a higher incidence of skin cancer on left side of neck and ear. It's not a bad idea to wear sunscreen when you fly.
 
Doesn't window glass filter out a lot of the bad stuff?

Window glass does nothing to stop gamma or x-rays or any of the higher-energy particles which blast all over the place at high altitude.
 
So lets add some more with the new machines. I don't care how much radiation they put out, any more is too much.
 
Will the USA Today block the radiation? Does great for making it dark for a movie. Now if I could only figure out how to pop popcorn.
 
Will the USA Today block the radiation? Does great for making it dark for a movie. Now if I could only figure out how to pop popcorn.
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Scary stuff. No wonder we don't last long after retirement.
Last Monday a White House blog drew attention to a long and lavishly footnoted letter from the Food and Drug Administration seeking to rebut concerns about the machines that had been raised by scientists at the University of California, San Francisco.
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Oh good, that settles it then, the FDA approves it, must be okay. They forgot to mention anything about the request for independent testing or at least release of the data from the testing before launching the machines on us. Or is there some particular reason the TSA has delayed the FOI request of that data?
 

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