New Medical/Alcohol Rule - FYI

[Way2Broke]

Here is 61.14 through 61.16
Quick link to the Online FARs as of June 20
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=28ebdf27bcad8432f13d996e3d74dce0&rgn=div5&view=text&node=14:2.0.1.1.2&idno=14#14:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.9

What he is referring to has nothing to do with the part 61 regs. It pertains to the Medical Certification of pilots, which is FAR par 67.

 

[Gorilla]

For most people .08 is three beers.

You sure about this? it might be if you are 4' 2" and weigh 60 pounds. For the typical adult male, it's going to take more than three normal beers to blow .08.

You may be completely correct, but I'm too lazy to do the research. If you have a source, I'd like to se it.

As for the .04, I'm guessing it's in conjunction with flying, not driving.

 

[FN FAL]

Guy that hit me was .236 - not sure if DWI is going down, only know that a significant portion of my late Jeep Wrangler sits on the bottom of the Scioto River in Columbus, Ohio. I have the same anger for drunk drivers that a lot of you guys have for illegal immigrants - line 'em up and mow 'em down!

I bet that knocked the cell phone out of your hand.

Back in '78 an "alleged" drunk driver hit me and took off while I was driving a real car. I followed him until he crashed into a concrete pipe laid on end in a road construction zone. Gawd was that hilarious watching him slide sideways with orange and white barricade delios flipping over the top of his car before he hit the pipe so hard it folded his four door into a U shape. Cop wouldn't give him him the DWI tickets, no matter how much the rescue squad guys doth protest. Good thing I was only following him to get his license number and not chasing him though, they would have thunk I invented road rage or something.

 

[Murdoughnut]

I bet that knocked the cell phone out of your hand.

Back in '78 an "alleged" drunk driver hit me and took off while I was driving a real car. I followed him until he crashed into a concrete pipe laid on end in a road construction zone. Gawd was that hilarious watching him slide sideways with orange and white barricade delios flipping over the top of his car before he hit the pipe so hard it folded his four door into a U shape. Cop wouldn't give him him the DWI tickets, no matter how much the rescue squad guys doth protest. Good thing I was only following him to get his license number and not chasing him though, they would have thunk I invented road rage or something.

I don't own a cell phone, let alone drive with one. The guy that hit me hit me head on on a two lane highway. His car flipped over and was resting against some trees. He ran from the scene but the helicopter and k-9 found him a little while later. This guy had a previous hit/skip on his record. Of course I read all of this from the police report, I was on my way to the hospital. Like I said, the guy was .236. I'm only sorry he wasn't killed in the accident.

 

[Snakum]

I never drink and drive.

I get my drinking done early ... then go driving.

:beer:

:nuts:

 

[Way2Broke]

You sure about this? it might be if you are 4' 2" and weigh 60 pounds. For the typical adult male, it's going to take more than three normal beers to blow .08.

You may be completely correct, but I'm too lazy to do the research. If you have a source, I'd like to se it.

As for the .04, I'm guessing it's in conjunction with flying, not driving.

Here is a chart, 4 beers and even a 200 pound man is over the limit. And this is with a perfectly healthy liver too.

http://www.brad21.org/bac_charts.html

Here is a what a "drink" is. 1 "drink" is alot less that the typical serving at most bars. Especially if you know the bartended.

http://www.brad21.org/what_is_a_drink.html

I hope everyone learns from this, without having to learn the hard way. The days of a cop just following you home or having you call a friend are over. DUIs are big money makers for most states.

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

Please correct me if you think I am wrong here!

Correct me I am wrong here but it seems to me that there is little to be concerned about here. What this seems to say to me is that if the DOT does a test, such as a random test as might be preformed on a 121/135 crew member before or after a flight, then that where this rule applies. Only then does the .04 apply and not if that is blown during a motor vehicle traffic stop.

New Rule:

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Mental standards for a second-class airman medical certificate are:
(b) No substance abuse within the preceding 2 years defined as:

(2) A verified positive drug test result, an alcohol test result of 0.04 or greater alcohol concentration, or a refusal to submit to a drug or alcohol test required by the U.S. Department of Transportation or an agency of the U.S. Department of Transportation;

 

[Metro752]

I would correct you if you were wrong but you do not seem to be wrong, and that is excellent!

 

[ultrarunner]

So if I am I interpreting this correctly, then if I have 2 beers with my buddies, get in my car to drive home, get stopped for an inop brake light and blow a 0.05% BAC, that the FAA can suspend or revoke my medical

No, .04 is not an alcohol driving offense. It's the aviation threshold.

 

[SiuDude]

Praise the administrator!

Correct me I am wrong here but it seems to me that there is little to be concerned about here. What this seems to say to me is that if the DOT does a test, such as a random test as might be preformed on a 121/135 crew member before or after a flight, then that where this rule applies. Only then does the .04 apply and not if that is blown during a motor vehicle traffic stop.

New Rule:

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Mental standards for a second-class airman medical certificate are:
(b) No substance abuse within the preceding 2 years defined as:

(2) A verified positive drug test result, an alcohol test result of 0.04 or greater alcohol concentration, or a refusal to submit to a drug or alcohol test required by the U.S. Department of Transportation or an agency of the U.S. Department of Transportation;