New Freight Dog wants advice.

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I just accepted my first 135 cargo job. (Air Cargo Carriers Shorts 330 F.O.) I'm currious for advice/things you wish you knew when you started in this part of aviation.

Thanks in advance

 

[Art Vandalay]

As an FO, unfortunately, you probably won't be doing much besides radios, checklists, and the occasional hand flying if you are lucky. As a "freight dog'', learn to say "NO" to things that are unsafe, illegal, and dangerous. Do not let dispatch pressure you into things that are wrong. Also, you need to know that the pretty girls that work the desks at the fbo HATE YOU. Finally, daily showers are now optional.


Art Vandalay, Writer, Venetian Blinds

 

[Wankel7]

Don't worry about getting stick time. We don't have autopilots and most everybody seems to alternate legs so you will get your share of flying. Welcome to ACC!

Wankel

 

[Guillotine007]

Also, you need to know that the pretty girls that work the desks at the fbo HATE YOU

i usually sleep (and snore loudly) in the lobby instead of going to the crew lounges. they do hate us all.

 

[Princedietrich]

i usually sleep (and snore loudly) in the lobby instead of going to the crew lounges. they do hate us all.

Although, the ultra-hot girl that works at Stevens in DAY was being especially smiley and friendly with me last night. I attribute this to the fact that I was looking very akin to a frozen wet rat and she felt sorry for me.

 

[Guam360]

Shorts....awesome airplane, land it flat, not like a 172.

 

[ilkwamh2]

2 rules to follow as a fr8dog:

#1 - Don't go below mins.
#2 - Never go missed.

Never let anyone(dispatch) talk you into compromising your integrity...meaning don't fly broken airplanes or fly into weather that you think is dangerous. If the plane is broken, they need to fix it...if they don't have $$$ to fix it, they don't need to be in this business. Hope this helps, welcome to the world of freight.

-W

 

[pilotyip]

Two Key phrases to advancement:
1. "Nice landing Captain"
2. "I'll take the fat one with zits"

 

[Frank Towns]

Welcome to the world of the dark my friend, NIGHT FREIGHT RULES.


P.S.
Take a look at the diahrrea in a freighter thread, could be helpful in a shorts,

Mr. Towns
(7th year night freighter)

 

[U-I pilot]

What were the mins for FO at ACC?

 

[psysicx]

And how is QOL and pay?

 

[SYXDude]

http://aircar.com/acci/

Minimum requirements: Commercial Pilot, Airplane, multi-engine land, Instrument, multi-engine land. 1500 hours total time, 200 hours multi-engine, 75 hours actual instrument.

 

[Wankel7]

I would say send in your resume anyway. Even if you are a shade under those mins.

I have worked with ACC for almost two years. I am doing the ondemand charter side of things. I think the QQL is great. Bearing in mind I am single We are on the road for 19 days with 9 days off in a row. I love that schd because 9 days off in a row is like a vacation every month. Pay for a charter FO is about 23k-26k. Captains see 55k+ depending on how much we fly. Schd FO sees 19k capt 42k.

On charter we have all 360-300. They are great planes for charter with six blade props and they can cruise along at FL200 with ease. Although you are on masks.

I upgraded in a little over one year. Which seems to be about the running average. This is a great plane to upgrade in because it is turbine pic and it weighs more than 20k for those who need that.

We have health insurance and 401k. Great company to work for and a fun airplane to fly! This is not your bottom feeding freight company. We have about 34 shorts with 3 DA-20s on our certificate soon.

Wankel

 

[psysicx]

How senior is Reno?

 

[T-Gates]

How senior is Reno?

First it has to open up, I have no idea who the Reno FO is and what his plan may be. Generally speaking the low-time runs have the highest turnover for FO's, because everyone wants to build their time to upgrade. But for CA's, the low-time runs are hella senior. So don't expect to be able to keep the run you had as an FO when you upgrade. The best plan is to come into the company flexible, because most likely you won't have an idea as to what positions are open until late in your training.

And for the new guy....Welcome! I hope you have a sense of humor, you need to be slightly kooky to survive in this end of the buisness!

 

[Guillotine007]

Although, the ultra-hot girl that works at Stevens in DAY was being especially smiley and friendly with me last night. I attribute this to the fact that I was looking very akin to a frozen wet rat and she felt sorry for me.

ah yes, the brown haired one who wears the f-me boots all the time. i remember when she got her braces off last year. i'd say "hit it" but my girlfriend may read this thread....

 

[7dustfan]

Have fun flying the SD3-30, the thing is wack on the vertical axis anytime you change power settings in flight... It yaws like a mofo. It also can be tricky on the landing rollout when you are in beta or reverse you will dance on the rudder pedals to keep the thing aligned on centerline of the runway. But suprisingly they are very good airplanes, the 360 is a bit better though, more stable and faster. Have fun!!!

 

[noslonlo]

Does the SD3-30 "require" 2 pilots?

 

[RJET]

Quick question for you freight doggs out there.
For company that used pistons without icing equipment how do they deal with those limitations during the winter. And how much pressure is aim at the pilots in terms of going?

 

[movingviolation]

Quick question for you freight doggs out there.
For company that used pistons without icing equipment how do they deal with those limitations during the winter. And how much pressure is aim at the pilots in terms of going?

"Don't check the weather, when you do that you get scared"

And from the Ram Air theme song.... "Dosn't matter if it's snowin, there's one thing sure your goin"

My advise (and this is from somebody who is stuck in the Southeast so I don't get into ice a whole lot) Fly under or over it.

Just make sure you get plenty of speed before you hit the layer, and bust through it as quick as you can.

Nights like this are where you really make your 20,000 a year

 

[flyinlow67]

Maybe a question for another thread, but how senior is MWA? I live right by there and meet the mins for ACC and was thinking about sending a resume over.
Anplace beats where I am flying now. 2 engine failures in two months sucks!!!

 

[mnixon]

If my "friend" had about 600 hours and wanted to fly cargo, are their any companies that would let him sit on the right side of the devil to meet 135 mins?

 

[T-Gates]

Does the SD3-30 "require" 2 pilots?

Yes, the 3-30 and 3-60 require 2 crewmembers.....

 

[Wankel7]

All shorts require two pilots.

Like it said earlier the senority of a base really dosen't mater when you are a new higher. Where you go depends on where they need you. However, within your class they look at age to figure on a pecking order.

FlyInLow - I would walk a resume over since you live so close....best to have options!

Wankel

 

[flyinlow67]

I will do that the next time I am home.

I live not 5 minutes from the airport, and fly 180 miles away.
So close, yet so far.............

 

[fly2crawl]

All shorts require two pilots.

The lovely skyvan is single pilot

 

[Capt. JD]

Anthem

This is the Freight Anthem...

"Don't check the weather, when you do that you get scared"

And from the Ram Air theme song.... "Dosn't matter if it's snowin, there's one thing sure your goin"

 

[wingnutt]

advice??? ...stay OUT OF THE MAGENTA!!!