New Delta INTL routes

[General Lee]

Rumor has it that we will announce tomorrow new service starting next Spring for the following city pairs:

JFK--Pisa, Italy (5 weekly flights 76ER)
JFK--Bucharest, Romania (4 weekly flights 76ER)
ATL--Seoul (777, 4 days a week)
ATL--Dubai (777 4 days a week)
ATL--Prague (5 days a week 76ER)
ATL--Vienna (5 days a week 76ER)



We shall see.......


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[JvW]

Delta is starting to stretch itself very thin on equipment, unless other routes are being dropped or more airplanes come onboard...especially B777s

JvW

 

[General Lee]

Delta is starting to stretch itself very thin on equipment, unless other routes are being dropped or more airplanes come onboard...especially B777s

JvW

777s, yes. But, by next Summer none will be going to Europe (except TLV--which is really in the Middle East). We have 8 in operation, and they will be going ATL to ICN (Seoul), NRT, TLV, DXB, and from JFK to BOM.

We had 14 767ERs that we were using in the domestic market. They all are going INTL, and we were also using a lot of the 764s on domestic routes (LAS, MCO, FLL), which will now be used mainly for nonstop ATL to HNL, and ATL to many European cities, in addition to JFK--MAN, SNN, and DUB.

We, unlike a lot of our competitors, have had many INTL ready airplanes in our domestic arena. That is one more reason we have lost so much money over the past few years---we flooded the markets with too many seats and didn't expand to places where LCCs did NOT go, like INTL cities.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[FDJ2]

Delta is starting to stretch itself very thin on equipment, unless other routes are being dropped or more airplanes come onboard...especially B777s

JvW

Delta will be getting more 777s in '08, but for now the current 777s can handle the load, domestic widebodied aircraft are being reconfigured for international flights and at least 10 B757s will be placed on the DAL certificate in '07. More news to come soon.

 

[SuperKooter]

I expect delta to have about 20 more 777s this time in 3 years

 

[General Lee]

I expect delta to have about 20 more 777s this time in 3 years

I'm thinking an extra 10-13. (all LR versions)


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[modesto2]

DL converted their next two 777 orders to the LR (2008) and are still expecting an additional 3 777 deliveries. I don't think they've officially announced the conversion of those 3 to the LR from the ER.

 

[Papa Woody]

I expect delta to have about 20 more 777s this time in 3 years

That's only if Skywest scope allows it....the agreement is 50 90-seat CRJ's for every 1/2 of a 777, provided the pay is 50-seater-or-less (for BOTH the '90 and the 777.)

 

[Kharma Police]

That's only if Skywest scope allows it....the agreement is 50 90-seat CRJ's for every 1/2 of a 777, provided the pay is 50-seater-or-less (for BOTH the '90 and the 777.)

I think the BK Judge has the final say not Skywest?

 

[General Lee]

Delta Continues Successful International Expansion With New Nonstop Service to Dubai, Seoul, Four Destinations in Europe
Thursday October 12, 8:00 am ET
New flights build on success of more than 50 international routes added in last year as part of largest international expansion in Delta's history
ATLANTA, Oct. 12, 2006 (PRIMEZONE) -- Delta Air Lines -- the world's fastest growing international airline -- is building on the success of the largest international expansion in its history with new nonstop service to some of the fastest growing economies in the world. During 2007, Delta will continue to diversify its global network with added service to high-demand destinations across Asia, the Middle East, Europe and Latin America.
Delta's new and expanded nonstop routes from the world's largest hub at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport will begin as follows: -- Atlanta-Prague, Czech Republic (effective May 2, 2007)(a); -- Atlanta-Vienna, Austria (effective May 21, 2007)(a); -- Atlanta-Dubai, United Arab Emirates (effective May 31, 2007)(a); -- Atlanta-Seoul-Incheon, South Korea (effective June 4, 2007)(a); and -- Atlanta-Sao Paulo, Brazil (expanded to twice daily, effective June 15-Aug. 15, 2007)(a).
Additionally, Delta will build on its leadership position at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport with expanded service to four global cities: -- New York-JFK-London-Gatwick, England (expanded to twice daily, effective April 1, 2007); -- New York-JFK-Pisa/Florence, Italy (effective May 31, 2007)(a); -- New York-JFK-Shannon, Ireland (nonstop service replacing existing one-stop flights via Dublin, effective June 2, 2007)(a); and -- New York-JFK-Bucharest, Romania (effective June 5, 2007)(a).

`Delta customers have responded overwhelmingly to the more than 50 new international routes added in the last year and have made the largest international expansion in our history an extraordinary success,'' said Delta CEO Gerald Grinstein. ``We are pleased to continue to respond to our customers' growing demand for international travel with another wave of new Delta destinations that will connect continents and cultures more quickly than ever before.''

Meeting customer demand

Even with a more than 20 percent increase in international capacity, Delta was successful in increasing trans-Atlantic and Latin America passenger unit revenues during the June quarter compared to the prior year and filled 83 percent of its international seats in June, July and August combined.
``In total more than 3 million customers chose to fly Delta this summer on international routes, representing a nearly 30 percent increase over 2005,'' said Glen Hauenstein, Delta's executive vice president -- Network and Revenue Management. ``The continued support of our customers enables us to confidently continue our international expansion in 2007.''
With its 2007 expansion, Delta will operate service to more trans-Atlantic destinations than any other U.S. carrier and will strengthen its position as the airline serving the most worldwide destinations. In total, Delta will serve 36 trans-Atlantic destinations by summer 2007 and will offer worldwide service to more than 300 cities.

Delta's upcoming expansion also increases to 16 the number of trans-Atlantic routes where Delta is the only major U.S. carrier to operate nonstop service, resulting in more direct routings to offer time savings to customers.
``We believe that our customers' most valuable commodity is their time,'' Grinstein said. ``By serving destinations like Bucharest and Pisa/Florence nonstop, we return to our customers millions of hours each year that they can spend with their families or advancing their business that otherwise would have been spent making international flight connections.''
Delta's new flights between New York-JFK and Bucharest(a), for instance, will reduce travel times by more than four hours in each direction when compared to connections on other major airlines via Europe.
Other routes where Delta will offer time savings as the only U.S. carrier operating nonstop trans-Atlantic service include: Athens, Greece; Budapest, Hungary; Dakar, Senegal(a); Dubai, UAE(a); Dusseldorf, Germany; Istanbul, Turkey; Kiev, Ukraine; Moscow, Russia; Nice, France; Pisa/Florence, Italy(a); Stuttgart, Germany; Prague, Czech Republic(a); and Vienna, Austria(a).
International fleet expansion

To fund its ongoing international expansion, Delta will transition seven 767-400 aircraft to its international fleet by next summer bringing to 20 the number of aircraft moved from domestic to international flying since spring 2006. With the addition of these aircraft to Delta's international fleet, all Delta flights to and from Asia will be operated with the 268-seat Boeing 777-200 aircraft while all long-range service to Europe and South America will feature 767-300 or 767-400 aircraft seating up to 214 and 246 passengers, respectively.
Beyond these fleet changes, Delta will retain the ability to transfer additional 767-400 widebody aircraft from domestic to international service for future expansion and is planning to add 10 long-range Boeing 757-200 aircraft to the fleet as early as 2007 that can be flown on both trans-Atlantic and Hawaiian routes.


``Delta maintains a competitive advantage against our peers in that we have the capability to grow international service with our existing fleet,'' Hauenstein said. ``Our large fleet of international-capable aircraft allows us to move into new and emerging international markets more quickly than any U.S. carrier and to meet our customers' demand for both business and leisure travel to new points around the globe.''


Enhanced customer service

In addition to expanding the scope of its international route system, Delta also is enhancing the experience of business and economy class travel on long-haul flights.
Earlier this week, Delta announced that it will be the first U.S. airline to introduce fully horizontal lie-flat seats on its Boeing 777 fleet in 2008 to improve comfort for customers flying in the airline's award-winning BusinessElite(r) cabin on ultra long-haul routes between the United States and destinations such as Tokyo, Seoul, Mumbai and Tel Aviv.
Additionally, by June 2007, customers choosing to fly BusinessElite on any international flight will enjoy Delta's enhanced service introduced this summer, including more comfortable seats with all-leather coverings, improved leg rests, more durable and comfortable cushioning throughout the seat, and the same 60 inches of legroom that has made BusinessElite a customer favorite. BusinessElite customers also will enjoy new innovative food offerings designed by celebrity chef Michelle Bernstein, award-winning, original wine selections, and industry-leading, on-demand personal in-seat entertainment boasting more than 20 first-run and popular class movies, a variety of TV programs, a broad range of music, and a suite of 12 video games.
Customers flying in economy class on Delta's newly reconfigured 767-400 and 777-200 aircraft will catch a glimpse of the future of Delta on-board entertainment with award-winning, on-demand entertainment at every seat as featured in the BusinessElite cabin and select long-haul domestic flights in the United States. On all flights, customers in economy class will enjoy Delta's new all-leather seats, enhanced food offerings, a complimentary cocktail with each meal, and soon a complimentary amenity kit featuring eye shades and ear plugs.

On the ground, Delta is investing more than $50 million to improve facilities at both its Atlanta and New York-JFK hubs in time for the summer 2007 travel season. At New York, Delta has added a dedicated BusinessElite check-in area at Terminal 2; is refreshing the customs and immigration entrance; and has upgraded Crown Room Clubs and BusinessElite lounges. In Atlanta, Delta has added a new Crown Room Club on Concourse C, 14 new lower-level, full-service check-in positions, new international check-in kiosks, and by summer will complete the renovation of its main check-in lobby as well as the modernization of every departure gate on Concourse A, B and T.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[viking737]

So what happens to Delta's domestic flying?

 

[General Lee]

So what happens to Delta's domestic flying?

We have moved the planes around like a shell game. The existing 757s that were flying SONG are now being moved to do more transcons with the new first class with TVs. The 738s have been moved to fly where the 757s used to go. The MD88s now do a lot of Song flying, doing N to S on the East Coast, and they fly a lot of point to point from ATL, and the NYC Shuttle. The MD88s have been reduced considerably out of CVG, with only 11 daily departures this month per day. The 737-200s were parked, along with the 737-300s. There has been a lot of route transfers between 70 seaters in ATL to certain destinations no doubt. We are awaiting atleast 10 ex TWA aircraft (757-200ERs) from you guys, with a possible 7 more on the way also. We also are looking for used MD88 and 737-700 aircraft out there (some may be sourced from Easy Jet in Europe--which is getting rid of 35 of them in favor of new A319s). This domestic plan is certainly in flux.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[typhoonpilot]

I expect delta to have about 20 more 777s this time in 3 years

Where are they going to get them? When the latest A380 delay came out my company went in search of 777s. They found 9 available over the next year or two. They went to the President to get approval to buy them immediately. That approval was given, but by the time they went back there were only 7 left. Point being, all 777 production seems to be spoken for for at least the next two years. Unless Boeing increases production or Delta finds some used ones they aren't going to get many more before 2009.

Delta Air Lines -- the world's fastest growing international airline

That's just funny. They are getting two new 777s and they are now the fastest growing International Airline on the planet. Not a slight on Delta, but I could name ten airlines off the top of my head that are growing International faster than they are. Just got to love press releases.

Atlanta-Dubai, United Arab Emirates (effective May 31, 2007)(a);

That'll be handy as a back-up for getting home.


Typhoonpilot

 

[General Lee]

Where are they going to get them? When the latest A380 delay came out my company went in search of 777s. They found 9 available over the next year or two. They went to the President to get approval to buy them immediately. That approval was given, but by the time they went back there were only 7 left. Point being, all 777 production seems to be spoken for for at least the next two years. Unless Boeing increases production or Delta finds some used ones they aren't going to get many more before 2009.



That's just funny. They are getting two new 777s and they are now the fastest growing International Airline on the planet. Not a slight on Delta, but I could name ten airlines off the top of my head that are growing International faster than they are. Just got to love press releases.




That'll be handy as a back-up for getting home.


Typhoonpilot

We supposedly have 10-13 more LRs coming through a lessor. They aren't on our books. They may be scheduled now as 777ERs, but they can be converted to LRs.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[FDJ2]

That's just funny. They are getting two new 777s and they are now the fastest growing International Airline on the planet.

I believe by fastest growing they are referring to the number of routes flown, not the number of new aircraft. DAL has greatly expanded their international presense by shifting wide bodied aircraft from domestic service to international service.

 

[fxbat]

I have to side with typhoon on this one, the middle east and India are spreading out like fire ants at a picnic. The press release is just fluff.

 

[General Lee]

I have to side with typhoon on this one, the middle east and India are spreading out like fire ants at a picnic. The press release is just fluff.

Do you know anyone else (a US carrier) that flies pax to Dubai from the US? How about nonstop to Mumbai? Are those not worthy stories? We are doing it. AA and CAL fly to Delhi. We will fly nonstop to BOM. That is good news for us. Thanks for the well wishes.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Stupid question.

With delta expanding their intl route, as previously stated, what is happening to the domestic flying... will the E170s we have for yall be expanding for delta? Or no clue and have to wait for delta rfp to come out.

Thx

 

[General Lee]

Stupid question.

With delta expanding their intl route, as previously stated, what is happening to the domestic flying... will the E170s we have for yall be expanding for delta? Or no clue and have to wait for delta rfp to come out.

Thx

If the price is right for Delta, then you probably will expand. If you are too expensive or the E170s aren't hitting the projected marks, then you could get replaced. Only management knows....

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Rumor has it that we will announce tomorrow new service starting next Spring for the following city pairs:

JFK--Pisa, Italy (5 weekly flights 76ER)
JFK--Bucharest, Romania (4 weekly flights 76ER)
ATL--Seoul (777, 4 days a week)
ATL--Dubai (777 4 days a week)
ATL--Prague (5 days a week 76ER)
ATL--Vienna (5 days a week 76ER)



We shall see.......


Bye Bye--General Lee

Good news 767's vs 757's at Cal. Good move.