New ASA/XJT Procedures

[Flyguy1226]

That's what I believed when we bought them, but now I'm having my doubts...

When WE bought them? Why do people think ASA bought XJT? We don't have any friggin' money. INC. bought them.

 

[jetstream]

The answer to that one is:

777 is brain-damaged. You can tell by the fact that he chose to display the rear end of a horse in the spot where a normal avatar should be.

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Glad to see its not just me. Every time I see that I think there is absolutely nothing attractive about it. Just too much.

 

[Nevets]

That's what I believed when we bought them, but now I'm having my doubts...

Ignoring the "we" word, why do you have doubts now?

 

[79%N1]

Maybe he means "we" as in Skywest, Inc. Since ASA is a part of said company, I believe we is appropriate here. He never said when ASA bought ExpressJet. The real question is why do XJT guys get such heartburn when someone says we? Semantics really.

 

[gator_hater]

I'm goint to have to agree with 777 on going over the route and not the legs. If the PDC is different from the release or what's filed then the legs page wont really help you.

That's where all that pilot stuff comes into play. You know charts, paper, and common sense. One way or another I'm gonna verify the legs page before we leave the gate and some computer coded response from PDC on $75 paper is only some of the info I'm using.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Wow....you mean actually looking at the departure?

The ritalin generation would disagree.

 

[dojetdriver]

Hey, it doesn't matter how we got here...

I see your point, but to some, it does matter how "we" got here. Starting with CAL backing XJT into a corner with Inc's help in 2008 along with the 8 million dollar "thanks for helping us punk XJT" prize they got. Never mind what SKW would have done had that gone through. To the current charlie foxtrot that that the integration of the two companies has become. Also, I'm pretty sure the "here" we find ourselves in would much more palatable as a menage a trois between the three separate companies held by Inc, as opposed to what's going on now.

Think about it, there'd be more than the "80 million dollars in synergies" being saved without everything being in triplicate and eventually just in duplicate. Also, management wouldn't be even less able to drop the fear grenade of having to cut costs to be "competititve".

The real question is why do XJT guys get such heartburn when someone says we? Semantics really.

Maybe the real questions is, why do ASA guys get the impression that since Inc used ASA to purchase XJT, they somehow singlehandedly had a say in what Jerry did, as well as the associated heartburn it causes the ASA guys that XJT pilots should have to inherit the crap that goes along with ASA?

You know, like certain ASA pilots that like to come on our message board and tell XJT pilots they better "get on board", then tell us to NOT vote for PBS. Or the ASA lifer that tries to lecture us about how great everything is at ASA, etc etc etc.......

 

[Freebrd]

PF now spins in altitude changes with AP on
1000 ft to level off call out now FL230 for FL240 or 8,000 for 7,000
Gear and Flaps 45 by 1000AGL now Liking the new changes, but Im wondering how many people will not read it or take 6 months to figure out the new procedures. About a year since the last round of OM changes and people still verifying the route with the legs page....

what a dork, you have to put everything on here don't ya

 

[shamrock]

I see your point, but to some, it does matter how "we" got here..

CFI's comment was a joke referencing an infamous email from one of our fearless leaders at ASA...

 

[dojetdriver]

CFI's comment was a joke referencing an infamous email from one of our fearless leaders at ASA...

My apologies then, I don't read all the stuff that gets put out by the ministry of propaganda at SureJet management. Sorry for missing the reference and spoiling a good joke.

So I apologize to CFI for not catching the sarcasm as I have a sarcastic sense of humor myself.

 

[OCP]

For dojetdriver...

The staffing and our operation has reached a critical mass this week (ie maintenance issues, increased flying added at the last minute, commuter clause users, sick calls, personal issues, extended training for some pilots-new hires and upgrades, ground damage, weather, too much open time left from the original bid run, PBS issues, people not following the FOM policies, etc.).

We have recently caught the attention of both of our mainline partners at the highest level. It is important that we all work to pull the operation up this week and weekend.

I would not be asking for your highest attention to this issue if it was not critical. I know at times it may seem unbearable recently to come to work but it is important you push through this and help to improve our operation now.



It doesn’t matter how we got here but we need to show ASA runs a quality on time, reliable airline to our partners without delay. You do a great job and your attention to our operation is appreciated before, now and in the future.

 

[79%N1]

Well, look at the bright side. We won't be understaffed for quite a while! Is there anybody out there really thinks they didn't know this was coming I'm the fall? Now we all know why they run thin for a few months.

 

[bigshooter107]

Well, look at the bright side. We won't be understaffed for quite a while! Is there anybody out there really thinks they didn't know this was coming I'm the fall? Now we all know why they run thin for a few months.

Probably giving them too much credit, I was told by a "high level" source at the puzzle palace that the deal was done until gojets brought in a last minute bid to operate the jets below cost.

 

[CaribPilot]

*fart*

 

[Redan]

Well, look at the bright side. We won't be understaffed for quite a while! Is there anybody out there really thinks they didn't know this was coming I'm the fall? Now we all know why they run thin for a few months.

I have to agree that's giving them way too much credit. Secondly, we've run thin for a whole lot more than a few months. Lastly, the argument could very easily be made that we lost the flying due to our pathetically miserable performance resulting from us being understaffed.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Ask yourselves which is more likely.

While hyper focusing on this ridiculous merger, The brain trust over at the A-tech (another great name), who came up with the name SUREJET saw this potential loss of flying MONTHS AGO and in a shrewd strategic decision, decided to run the place as thin as possible for the eventual loss of said flying. After the expected loss of airframes comes to fruition MGMT breathes a sigh of relief as the plan worked flawlessly.

or

The totally incompetent Brain trust were ONCE AGAIN caught "flat footed". In a move to cut costs as much as possible, BH and company CROSSED THEIR FINGERS hoping we wouldn't put one in the dirt due to fatigue and 7 leg days. We PISSED off our major partner who decided to teach us a lesson about proper management.

So which is it?

PBS was supposed to save us MILLIONS!! ASA cant make it work. PBS works for EVERY OTHER airline that uses it.

I vote no confidence for our inept, inept management.