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Oops! I think maybe you dropped the ball here. You were doing so well with one post and all...

He was doing well until that post. Progress though. Don't worry he'll read this and throw a post in with a combination of the following words: Dumbass, retard, etc.... and then accuse me of being Einstein, Chuckie, blah blah blah blah. He is obssesed with that guy and just because I posted a few times against Airtran/Delta I have filled in where that guy has left. this is better than American Idol reading his posts. :laugh: :laugh:
 
He was doing well until that post. Progress though. Don't worry he'll read this and throw a post in with a combination of the following words: Dumbass, retard, etc.... and then accuse me of being Einstein, Chuckie, blah blah blah blah. He is obssesed with that guy and just because I posted a few times against Airtran/Delta I have filled in where that guy has left. this is better than American Idol reading his posts. :laugh: :laugh:

The trailer park must really miss you when you go in town to do those "special favors.":D

737
 
The trailer park must really miss you when you go in town to do those "special favors.":D

737

I leave you guys alone for a day and this is how you behave?? That's it no Delta name and no double beasted jackets.:laugh:

WD.
 
Have the USAir or East guys started saying that yet? I bet they can't wait....And my pal Oberstar disagrees with you. You should tell him he's wrong.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Gen,

They may not like it but trust me come single certificate call sign is and will be CACTUS!!! I would start working on it if I were you as you too will be using it...;)

WD.
 
Gen,

They may not like it but trust me come single certificate call sign is and will be CACTUS!!! I would start working on it if I were you as you too will be using it...;)

WD.

Read the starting of this thread, the actual article. Sounds like Bethune may disagree with you, and the creditors don't seem to be jumping up and calling Doug. But, keep thinking it will happen, and it just might! You go girl!

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
dang it. What about leather jackets then? All the really cool guys wear leather jackets!

737

Jokes aside that leather jacket beats the hell out of a trench coat in ORD at winter time!! Plus when you go out to get food you don't look as if you are carring a shotgun under your trench coat...

WD.
 
Moving and shaking an industry
US Airways chief and Bethune have a meeting of the minds

By BILL HENSEL JR.
Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle
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Doug Parker, US Airways' chief executive, shook the airline industry with his hostile bid for Delta Air Lines.
Gordon Bethune, the former head of Houston's Continental Airlines, is no stranger to shaking things up.
They were thrown together after Parker's move in November for his Tempe, Ariz.-based airline to acquire the bankrupt Delta.
Delta's unsecured creditors committee hired Bethune, formerly chairman and CEO of Houston-based Continental, to help study that deal.
If US Airways' move for Atlanta-based Delta proceeds, it is expected to trigger other airlines to pair up. That could include Continental and United, which already were privately talking when the proposed US Airways deal was unveiled.
The next few weeks are expected to be important in terms of whether major industry changes will be coming.
Bethune and Parker met for breakfast last week in New York City. During that two-hour meeting Bethune asked questions and Parker answered.
"I thought it was a great meeting," Parker said. "It was refreshing to talk with someone who understands full well what we are trying to accomplish, appreciates challenges and is good at assessing management talent and depth."
Two days later, US Airways sweetened its offer by almost $2 billion — to cash and stock worth $10.2 billion. Parker said the new offer would expire on Feb. 1 unless supported by the creditors, who play a key role in determining the airline's future.
Bethune characterized his role as that of a facilitator.
"I made an assessment of where he was," Bethune said. "I am not hired to negotiate for the committee. I am just giving some friendly advice."
The veteran executive, who retired from Houston-based Continental at the end of 2004, is to be paid $250,000 for 10 days work.
Parker said Bethune didn't appear to have specific marching orders from the creditors committee.
"He seemed pretty open-minded, and he knows enough about this industry to already have some views," Parker said. "It seems he came of his own accord without any direction from anyone else. He was there doing what the committee asked him to do, which was come ask questions of management."
Bethune, who is chairman of Aloha Airgroup, has said he thinks the airline industry will consolidate. The outspoken executive said having a large number of major carriers leads to instability for employment and pension matters.
Parker obviously believes in consolidation and says his experience shows the benefit of consolidation.
Parker, a former executive for American and Northwest airlines, went on to head up America West. In 2005, he led the merger of America West with US Airways.
"We took two airlines, neither one particularly strong, to build an airline that is going to have higher profit than any other network airline in the United States," Parker said.
But that job is not complete. The airlines are still basically operating individually. Parker said he hopes to have an operating certificate for the merged carrier from the Federal Aviation Administration by mid-2007.
"We think our team has done a fantastic job of merging America West and US Airways," Parker said. "We are 15 or 16 months into it and have consolidated all the airports, all the systems, and our people are working exceptionally well together."
Parker acknowledged there have been problems, however, like combining the carriers' Web sites.
Delta's management has vowed to emerge from bankruptcy later this year as a stand-alone company.
Delta's board rebuffed
the original bid by US Airways. Delta CEO Gerald Grinstein at that time said it raised overwhelming regulatory and labor issues.
However, the creditors committee — which includes the likes of Boeing Co., where Bethune worked before coming to Continental — has far more influence than management in this matter.
Bethune, who meets with some members of Delta's creditors committee Friday, made it clear he knows whom he reports to.
"I know Parker and I like Parker, and I know Grinstein and I like Grinstein," Bethune said. "But I work for the committee."
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Moving and shaking an industry
US Airways chief and Bethune have a meeting of the minds

By BILL HENSEL JR.
Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle
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Doug Parker, US Airways' chief executive, shook the airline industry with his hostile bid for Delta Air Lines.
Gordon Bethune, the former head of Houston's Continental Airlines, is no stranger to shaking things up.
They were thrown together after Parker's move in November for his Tempe, Ariz.-based airline to acquire the bankrupt Delta.
Delta's unsecured creditors committee hired Bethune, formerly chairman and CEO of Houston-based Continental, to help study that deal.
If US Airways' move for Atlanta-based Delta proceeds, it is expected to trigger other airlines to pair up. That could include Continental and United, which already were privately talking when the proposed US Airways deal was unveiled.
The next few weeks are expected to be important in terms of whether major industry changes will be coming.
Bethune and Parker met for breakfast last week in New York City. During that two-hour meeting Bethune asked questions and Parker answered.
"I thought it was a great meeting," Parker said. "It was refreshing to talk with someone who understands full well what we are trying to accomplish, appreciates challenges and is good at assessing management talent and depth."
Two days later, US Airways sweetened its offer by almost $2 billion — to cash and stock worth $10.2 billion. Parker said the new offer would expire on Feb. 1 unless supported by the creditors, who play a key role in determining the airline's future.
Bethune characterized his role as that of a facilitator.
"I made an assessment of where he was," Bethune said. "I am not hired to negotiate for the committee. I am just giving some friendly advice."
The veteran executive, who retired from Houston-based Continental at the end of 2004, is to be paid $250,000 for 10 days work.
Parker said Bethune didn't appear to have specific marching orders from the creditors committee.
"He seemed pretty open-minded, and he knows enough about this industry to already have some views," Parker said. "It seems he came of his own accord without any direction from anyone else. He was there doing what the committee asked him to do, which was come ask questions of management."
Bethune, who is chairman of Aloha Airgroup, has said he thinks the airline industry will consolidate. The outspoken executive said having a large number of major carriers leads to instability for employment and pension matters.
Parker obviously believes in consolidation and says his experience shows the benefit of consolidation.
Parker, a former executive for American and Northwest airlines, went on to head up America West. In 2005, he led the merger of America West with US Airways.
"We took two airlines, neither one particularly strong, to build an airline that is going to have higher profit than any other network airline in the United States," Parker said.
But that job is not complete. The airlines are still basically operating individually. Parker said he hopes to have an operating certificate for the merged carrier from the Federal Aviation Administration by mid-2007.
"We think our team has done a fantastic job of merging America West and US Airways," Parker said. "We are 15 or 16 months into it and have consolidated all the airports, all the systems, and our people are working exceptionally well together."
Parker acknowledged there have been problems, however, like combining the carriers' Web sites.
Delta's management has vowed to emerge from bankruptcy later this year as a stand-alone company.
Delta's board rebuffed
the original bid by US Airways. Delta CEO Gerald Grinstein at that time said it raised overwhelming regulatory and labor issues.
However, the creditors committee — which includes the likes of Boeing Co., where Bethune worked before coming to Continental — has far more influence than management in this matter.
Bethune, who meets with some members of Delta's creditors committee Friday, made it clear he knows whom he reports to.
"I know Parker and I like Parker, and I know Grinstein and I like Grinstein," Bethune said. "But I work for the committee."
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This article essentially says nothing. We all knew Bethune and Parker met, and they had a good meeting. I think this article states more of what Bethune ACTUALLY thinks, especially in the last sentence. That was a bold statement.



By Chris Reiter
NEW YORK, Jan 16 (Reuters) - US Airways Group Inc. (LCC.N: Quote, Profile , Research) still has a tall order to convince Delta Air Lines Inc. (DALRQ.PK: Quote, Profile , Research) creditors to accept its takeover offer, despite raising the bid by about 20 percent last week, industry veteran Gordon Bethune said on Tuesday.
Bethune, a former chief executive of Continental Airlines (CAL.N: Quote, Profile , Research), who became a key player in determining Delta's future when he was hired as a consultant by Delta's creditors' committee in December. Credited with rescuing Continental, the outspoken former executive said Delta's creditors' interests are so diverse that getting enough of them to back any proposal is "like herding cats."

Delta's creditors include planemaker Boeing Co. (BA.N: Quote, Profile , Research), pilots union Air Line Pilots Association, the city of Cincinnati and bondholders like Deutsche Bank.
"They're not all lined up on what's good for each other," Bethune said in a telephone interview.


US Airways, which has offered $10.5 billion in cash and stock for Delta, has set a Feb. 1 deadline for its bid unless it gets support from Delta's creditors to perform due diligence and postpone a Feb. 7 hearing that would start the voting process on Delta's stand-alone plan. Meanwhile, Delta management, which rejected the original bid, is pushing ahead with its plan and asked in a filing on Friday for court permission to start seeking creditor approval.

US Airways' bid, which was increased about 20 percent, keeps them in the game after creditors expressed concerns about the original offer, according to Bethune, who met with creditors and US Airways last week.
He said he doesn't yet have further meetings planned.
"I'm glad to see that the creditors are at least being offered more than they were in the past," said Bethune. "I know the creditors' committee is looking at that." Bethune declined to offer his own opinion of the U.S. Airways and Delta stand-alone plans and what the outcome may be. But he said he still supported industry consolidation.

"I can still be a proponent of marriage without agreeing that these two people have to get married," he said.



Bye Bye--General Lee


 
We took two airlines, neither one particularly strong, to build an airline that is going to have higher profit than any other network airline in the United States," Parker said.




This statement by Parker is essesntially true, yet he fails to make a good comparison with DL and US. AWA and US have very little overlap, almost the same fleet types, and USAir wanted to be merged. On the other hand, Delta overlaps all over the place with US (meaning job layoffs), the fleets are not even close (a combined carrier would have 18 fleet types), and Delta and the employees do not want a merger. (That is why you gain political support)

Parker tries to convice people this would work, but it really isn't working.



Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Isn't there a "gay pilots'" meeting you should be attending?

737



You mean the one where you are the Master Of Cermonies...?? Nah....I'm a flaming heterosexual and have the naked pictures of your sister to prove it!!


PHXFLYR:cool:
 
You mean the one where you are the Master Of Cermonies...?? Nah....I'm a flaming homosexual and have the naked pictures to prove it!!


PHXFLYR:cool:

Way to go sport! Its way past your bed time.
Again, its no wonder AWA didn't require a 4 year degree!
I'm sure you were real popular in the boys' locker room!

737
 

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