Netjets...

[Capt. JD]

http://www.netjets.com/News%20and%20Info/careers_pilots.asp

Airline Transport Pilot Certificate
Current FAA First Class Medical certificate
2500 hours total pilot time
500 hours fixed wing multi-engine time
250 hours instrument time

Is there a Turbine requirement? Wait, let me ask this... Has anyone reading this gotten hired at NetJets with 0 turbine time?

 

[Hogprint]

CptJD

Yes, they have hired folks with no turbine time. In my Initial class we had several freight dogs hired flying Barons.

The problem now is, competitve numbers are 5k plus TT, and that goes without saying that turbine will be included in that.

I'm sure there are exceptions to this.

 

[Capt. JD]

Hog,

Thanks, when was your class? Oh, do they have Co-capt. at NetJets that are typed? Or is it non-typed SIC intial that you had? Thanks again...

 

[be-400xpdriver]

I think competative time is lower than that. I have several friends and my self were hired with less that 3500TT but with 1000 or more turbine pic. They hire alot of retired airline people so there time might jack up the average. My class was 8 ex airline, 1 military, 5 regional, and 6 corporate.

 

[niteflyr]

SIC training includes the type, both pilots are typed in the plane.

 

[Doug Parker]

I'm sure if there is a strike the minimums to get hired will drop waaaaaaaaaay down - i.e. a pulse and and a Private license.....

 

[CandyMan]

I wonder if NETJETWIFE has the experience to Get Hired at Netjets

 

[TurboJetCpt]

Why come here ?

 

[Schrode]

Now is not really the time to be coming to NetJets. Too much going on. The work enviornment is getting hostile, not from the pilots but on how the company feels we should be treated. We have to watch every move we make - blamed for the operational readiness, yet called in for not writing up a burned out bulb... Being personally called by the Director of Operations for finding too much wrong with an airplane (can you say "safety of flight?"). Calls from the Cheif Pilot for departing 3 minutes late . . .

Now is not the time to come to NetJets. We will be glad to have you when we get this contract worked out, and this place will be a better place. If we don't, well - let's just hope that it all gets worked out.

 

[CMHTroll]

What you are really saying is:

Now is not really the time to be coming to NetJets. Too much going on. The work enviornment is getting hostile, not from the pilots but on how the company feels we should be treated. We have to watch every move we make - blamed for the operational readiness, yet called in for not writing up a burned out bulb... Being personally called by the Director of Operations for finding too much wrong with an airplane (can you say "safety of flight?"). Calls from the Cheif Pilot for departing 3 minutes late . . .

Now is not the time to come to NetJets. We will be glad to have you when we get this contract worked out, and this place will be a better place. If we don't, well - let's just hope that it all gets worked out.

We don't want you to come here because we pilots have to convince the company that it is so terrible to work at NetJets. We the pilots have created a hostile work environment of intimidation and threats, because that what the union book says to do. We will nickel and dime the company to an inch of it's life as we try and hold it hostage for our demands. We are right because we have Darth Owens on our side. He used to be a great guy and now he is even better because he tells us so. And we can trust everything he says because he is the poster child for truth, justice and the fractional way.

Yes it is best not to come here until Darth Owens is unmasked and the pilots regain their senses. Just wait it out.

 

[JetProp]

Beware of the internet troll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

 

[cosmotheassman]

Why are these guys going to work at netjets right now? I wouldnt mind working there AFTER the new contract if its decent but, to go there right now is not smart in my opinion.

 

[ultrarunner]

They hire alot of retired airline people so there time might jack up the average.

talked with a buddy of mine that flew with one of these guys over the last week or so, and he said this guy was freaking scary...couldn't see, hear, would get lost on a taxi chart...etc...

Not a poster-child for an increase in the retirement age. He said this guy was in his early 70's...and was the CPT...

no thanks.

 

[Capt. JD]

W.t.f?

I though NetJets was the top fractional out there? Why does it suck there, just management? What the training contract like, it not fvcking PFT is it? I imagine the pay is better then the regional, right? I want to get typed in Lear, Citations, etc. & get time in type. Is it possible for a freight dawg flying a Cessna 310 to make the jump to corporate jets at NetJets? Do they fly on demand there or on a schedule? As always, thanks for the intel...

 

[ghostrider64]

JD it really only sucks for new hires...here is why...

Recently there was an active attempt to get as many FO's off of FO pay by a collective effort to have the most junior FO in the 400XP bid capt...Therefore every senior FO to him would have received bypass pay (capt pay)...What haapened is the company has chosen not to "award" the bid...So if you come here I wouldn't expect that you will see PIC time for several years and you may NEVER get off the FO payscale, which is horrible...

Ask this question during your interview...

Are all captain bids awarded as they are posted? If they tell you yes all bids are awarded as posted you will know it is a lie....If they respond that up until MAY 2005 they were awarded as posted...ask them what happened to the recent 400XP bid...

BTW if you make it to year 6 or 7 here the pay is livable but not great...the 91K work rules are awesome compared to the past 91 rules...

Good luck wth your decision and please live up to it that it is your decision and you shouldn't complain if you come here informed and understand what you are getting into...In fact there is no reason to come here uninformed...

On a side note we have basically been parked and there are no planned contract talks in our future...We have what we have and can expect nothing else for the future...

 

[TurboJetCpt]

JD it really only sucks for new hires...here is why...

Recently there was an active attempt to get as many FO's off of FO pay by a collective effort to have the most junior FO in the 400XP bid capt...Therefore every senior FO to him would have received bypass pay (capt pay)...What haapened is the company has chosen not to "award" the bid...So if you come here I wouldn't expect that you will see PIC time for several years and you may NEVER get off the FO payscale, which is horrible...

Ask this question during your interview...

Are all captain bids awarded as they are posted? If they tell you yes all bids are awarded as posted you will know it is a lie....If they respond that up until MAY 2005 they were awarded as posted...ask them what happened to the recent 400XP bid...

BTW if you make it to year 6 or 7 here the pay is livable but not great...the 91K work rules are awesome compared to the past 91 rules...

Good luck wth your decision and please live up to it that it is your decision and you shouldn't complain if you come here informed and understand what you are getting into...In fact there is no reason to come here uninformed...

On a side note we have basically been parked and there are no planned contract talks in our future...We have what we have and can expect nothing else for the future...

um...no...it sucks for 90% of us. Koolaid tastes swell to around 10% of you.

 

[Capt. JD]

Soooo...

So will things get better at NetJets in like 6 months, because I want to get my multi up... or is this a company I should not even consider for trying to break into jets?


Oh personal question, did you get canned? It's say your unemployed?

Why come here ?

um...no...it sucks for 90% of us. Koolaid tastes swell to around 10% of you.

 

[ghostrider64]

JD if all yourr looking for is multi yes you could come here...But be forewarned that you will be signing a 2 year training contract and they will indeed come after you if you leave early...It also means you will be an FO your entire career here...if you can afford to live under those conditions by all means come...BTW if you are counting on a new contract don't....

 

[Capt. JD]

Ok...

I meant get my multi up at my current job... I don't want to be an F/O any longer then I have to be... Thanks for the info.

 

[netjetwife]

Capt. JD, a two year binding commitment comes with the position. If a pilot chooses to leave before then, they must pay for the training.

From where I sit...across the table from my husband....I hear regular examples of management trying to intimidate the pilots, especially new-hires. Even without those cases, it is not at all difficult to come to the conclusion that after almost 4 years of negotiating the atmosphere would be quite strained for all involved. Labor disputes are, by their very nature, difficult times for companies and those employed there. The FO pay IS as bad as the pilots say, the upgrade time can take several years, and it is advisable to have strike funds set aside, just in case.