Netjets VSP?

[pilotyip]

ok. Push-ups how many in what amount of time? You do realize I am going to call the FAA medical office and suggest these new changes once we have decided on this?

I was wrong it is not push ups, it is pull ups. 20 is the max no time limit.(100 pts) 100 crunches in 120 seconds (100 pts) and you got it right on the three mile run in 18 minutes for max score (100 pts). :beer:

 

[shanes123]

I like it. That should be the new standard for the First Class Medical.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Resting pulse over 60???? HA HA HA HA ..You clearly have no idea about heart rate and what it means. probably 90% of adults range from 65-70 BPM. Any heart Physician will tell you 60-100 BPM is considered normal. Thats a resting heart rate. only well trained athletes are below 60 with some actually as low as 40. Know your facts before you say something so stupid. maybe you just have Dementia and should hang it up. this could be a sign. You sure you don't work for Flexjet?????

You obviously are not a cardiologist. Relax in the AMEs before your EKG and your resting pulse rate might drop. If you pulse drops below 50, expect the FAA to require you be evaluated for bradycardia. That's the threshold to see if you need a pacemaker. Any no, I didn't need one.

 

[acaTerry]

All my financial calculators and retirement calculators say I need to work till 72. If I don't die first.

That's in an average market. I am optimistic and think I can beat the market so I am shooting for 69.

Thought you were already there!

 

[imacdog]

Some of the whining young ones with a mouh and a gut to match are the ones that should leave.

Okay but how would then having an even higher percentage of gummers in the company make us safer?

 

[Bjtdrvr]

How many of your a/c incidents or accidents actually have had an old pilot in the cockpit? I can thing of four here where I work and non of them had an older pilot in them!

 

[rettofly]

How many of your a/c incidents or accidents actually have had an old pilot in the cockpit? I can thing of four here where I work and non of them had an older pilot in them!

The captain of the Beech 1900 who caused 10 seat scheduled commuters to go from FAR 135 to FAR 121 was 35 years old.

Young captains and f/os are not immune to errors; neither are old ones.

 

[pilotyip]

Okay but how would then having an even higher percentage of gummers in the company make us safer?

[FONT=&quot]Human beings of all ages make mistakes; young, old, and everywhere in between. The question you really need to be asking is, what age group of professional multi crew pilots have the most fatal accidents. The NTSB documents the age of every airman involved in an accident or incident, so the data is available. Instead, you focus solely on a pilot being gummer, wharever that is, and conclude older pilots are more unsafe than younger pilots.

The problem is, you failed to consider incidents that contradict your theory like the two youngsters who zoom climbed an RJ to FL410. The 31 year old Captain and 23 year old SIC flamed out and seized both engines, and then failed to find a single suitable place to land from FL410. The Colgan accident in Buffalo involving a 47 year old captain with 3300 TT and a 24 year old First Officer with 1400 hours TT. Do you really think it's likely two high time 65 year old pilots would have made the same mistakes? I think it highly unlikely.

In-flight incapacitation, plenty of cases of hearth attacks on pilots under 60, none that I know of pilots over 70. Maybe take the youngest at of an in-flight incapacitation and make that he mandatory age, that would get rid of all those gummers.[/FONT]
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[imacdog]

I see the cognitive decline deniers are out in force today.

 

[shanes123]

Yep. The one thing keeping these Gummers out of trouble is the younger guy babysitting him. And handling both sides of the cockpit. The colgan case you had two pilots that had no business in the cockpit no matter their age. That was just down right stupid. But that's what you get when you pay 25k a year.

 

[jetlag7]

Not that anyone cares about the OP since this thread has been de-railed so far off course......

For those that still do, the company sent out an update yesterday stating they have received over 50 applications for the VSP to date. The application window is open until July 31.

Now all the whipper-snappers get back to bashing the old dudes, and all the "Seasoned" aviators get back to yelling at the "punk kids" to get off your lawn!!!!!

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[pilotyip]

I see the cognitive decline deniers are out in force today.

Pure get out of my seat

 

[Imissmypilot]

Resting pulse over 60???? HA HA HA HA ..You clearly have no idea about heart rate and what it means. probably 90% of adults range from 65-70 BPM. Any heart Physician will tell you 60-100 BPM is considered normal. Thats a resting heart rate. only well trained athletes are below 60 with some actually as low as 40. Know your facts before you say something so stupid. maybe you just have Dementia and should hang it up. this could be a sign. You sure you don't work for Flexjet?????

Maybe he's basing on his own experience. My RHR is 56 and while I work out out I am hardly an athlete. I seem to recall it being over 100 in college, so I guess based on my own experience I've improved with age.

There you go jumping to conclusions and assuming your set of facts or circumstances are the only ones with any bearing. You must work for Flight Options.

A good assessment of someone's skillet is whether or not you'd be comfortable with them flying your family. I know some 40ish guys with 8000 TT who think they are God's gift to aviation I wouldn't want flying in the same airspace let alone piloting their craft. I also know some old farts I'd never have a second thought about sending them out with. Age limitations are very subjective.

I know the high some get from putting others down can be very addictive, but really Shanes you need to find a healthier hobby. Come on bud, not EVERYTHING is a battle and not EVERYONE is threatening your career expectations.

 

[doh]

Yes, there is a certain 72 year old (small guy from New Jersey) 300 captain that I'm going to miss a lot when he pulls the trigger. You 300 guys know who I'm talking about. I really love flying with him.

 

[imacdog]

Pure get out of my seat

Actually, pure science. Remember YIP, flying professionally with changing circadian rhythms and a fast-paced work day is a bit different than taking the 172 up after an afternoon nappy-poo. Pretty easy to see the decline take its toll on these fossils when you're paired up with them for a week.

 

[pilotyip]

Actually, pure science. Remember YIP, flying professionally with changing circadian rhythms and a fast-paced work day is a bit different than taking the 172 up after an afternoon nappy-poo. Pretty easy to see the decline take its toll on these fossils when you're paired up with them for a week.

I am sure you believe that

 

[imacdog]

Hard to argue with science agreeing with experience, yes.

 

[pilotyip]

Hard to argue with science agreeing with experience, yes.

Yes, there is a certain 72 year old (small guy from New Jersey) 300 captain that I'm going to miss a lot when he pulls the trigger. You 300 guys know who I'm talking about. I really love flying with him.

Sounds like this guy skipped his science course

 

[imacdog]

There are always exceptions to a rule, but they are the exceptions and not the rule.

 

[superfly]

I revise my estimate. 63 total will take VSP. The remaining "highly experienced" pilots will work till: a) loose medical, or b) die.

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