Netjets Selling Beechjets to TMC?

[ksu_aviator]

In the 300 the control column doesn't come up through the floor, so you have some room to move your feet...but the 4+ hour legs do get old.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Ummm, your forgetting that new airplane smell. That's the shizzle...

Love that!

 

[cldsfr79]

Neither. Current deliveries are purely fleet renewal and not growth.

Furloughs will return when attrition and rising flight hour demand combine to require recalls. And that will be a little while longer...

Correct. Watching the market and reading AIN and other industry publications, it appears any return to growth, meaning just attempting to get back towards pre recession levels, is many many years away if not ever.

Attrition is just not happening either. Very few are retiring at any fractional and it is speculation that there are NJ pilots sitting home (non furloughed) that can be brought out to cover a position if needed. Given the slow overall private jet market, and how AIN discusses little growth and stagnation of flight hours, possibly no recalls until 2016ish at NJ. That again is based on attrition and not growth. Unless in the case of death or a terrible contract, I don't see PICs leaving for other jobs or retiring ever. And for the furloughed guys, who would come back as a SIC in a private jet with absolutely no hopes of ever upgrading.

 

[gunfyter]

Someone said training has hundreds of PRIA requests ... not sure how they know this....

 

[CALRepublic]

Attrition is just not happening either. Very few are retiring at any fractional and it is speculation that there are NJ pilots sitting home (non furloughed) that can be brought out to cover a position if needed. Given the slow overall private jet market, and how AIN discusses little growth and stagnation of flight hours, possibly no recalls until 2016ish at NJ. That again is based on attrition and not growth.

Of course nobody is retiring. We have a lot of greedy people here with no life outside of aviation. These dinosaurs will keep going until they medical out.. 72-74 is the target retiring age for some of these people

This 69 year old captain I know said he "should be able to hold the Global by late 2014". Good luck to whomever gets him as a sim-partner. The global is a difficult type

 

[ksu_aviator]

Of course nobody is retiring. We have a lot of greedy people here with no life outside of aviation. These dinosaurs will keep going until they medical out.. 72-74 is the target retiring age for some of these people

This 69 year old captain I know said he "should be able to hold the Global by late 2014". Good luck to whomever gets him as a sim-partner. The global is a difficult type

WTF? Why do you get to be the arbiter of who should retire and why? You don't know. These old guys might have 5 wives and alimony payments out the tail pipe. They might not be greedy, they might have greedy ex wives. Even if they are greedy, so what? Not your place to tell them what to do.

 

[NoJoy]

Thank God for the age 65 rule in the airlines. ;

 

[pilotyip]

Thank God for the age 65 rule in the airlines. ;

Well except in Canada where it has been raised to 67. standby for more changes in the US.