NetJets, Marquis Jet, Executive Jet Management?

[BengalsFan]

NJA folks

I always hear Marquis Jet, Executive jet Management and NJI used in the same sentence with you all. I understand that NJI hires seperatly, without a union, etc. But who is Marquis Jet and Executive Jet Management?

Also, I am military (3 1/2 years left on commitment). I want to do corportate or frac flying when I get out. So, out of the above listed companies, which one is the best...

Thanks for helping an outsider understand.

 

[x402]

Marquis, is a re-seller of NJA aircraft time. They do not hire pilots.
EJM, manages aircraft and does hire pilots for specific tails, if the a/c comes off the certificate the job goes away.

EJM does fly NJA flights as vendor a/c, when NJA needs additional capacity.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Marquis, is a re-seller of NJA aircraft time. They do not hire pilots.
EJM, manages aircraft and does hire pilots for specific tails, if the a/c comes off the certificate the job goes away.

EJM does fly NJA flights as vendor a/c, when NJA needs additional capacity.

x402,

In many cases, the aircraft EJM manages already had pilots when the owners signed on. The owners simply wanted an easy way to pay the pilots, mechanic, F/A, taxes, etc. and also to take advantage of the group purchasing power EJM offers. Some owners also want to defray ownership fixed costs and taxes by offering their aircraft for charter through EJM but not all do. Just because the owner decides to leave EJM in favor of another management company or independent operation doesn't necessarily mean the job goes away. Sometimes the owner hires the pilot directly, sometimes the owner asks EJM to recruit the pilot for them.

Each aircraft (there are more than a 100 now) has a different deal which is one reason why EJM pilots could never be part of Teamsters 1108. "Ah yes, Mr. Jones. EJM is now a union shop so you'll have no choice on who your pilots are, when they'll work or for how much." "But Nick and Joe have flown for me for 15 years and I pay them more than industry average!" "We're sorry, Mr. Jones. It's up to union seniority and pay scale now." "Okay, do have the number for TAG?"

 

[x402]

Certainly a much more thorough answer and I'm sure Bengalfan will apprecieate it. I on the other hand am just waiting for the 1st, and the other shoe.

x

 

[BengalsFan]

Thanks guys...

 

[Jafo73]

NJA/NJI would probably be more stable with more defined work rules (days on/off, etc). The other thing is NJI requires 5000 total time and prefers Gulfstream time

 

[gutshotdraw]

Certainly a much more thorough answer and I'm sure Bengalfan will apprecieate it. I on the other hand am just waiting for the 1st, and the other shoe.

x

So am I. It's been falling for almost two years now but I don't expect to hear it hit the floor for about another two......

 

[netjetwife]

BF, my husband is retired AF and is happy with his choice to fly for NJA.

I enforce a shoe rule at my house: On your feet or in the closet. Anything else just gets in the way. Closets are big enough for multiple pairs of shoes and stalling isn't allowed. That's also my opinion on the symbolic "shoe"....

IBB is cleaning up the messy aspects of the 2005 CBA. A perfect time to rearrange the closet I think...

 

[gutshotdraw]

BF, my husband is retired AF and is happy with his choice to fly for NJA.

I enforce a shoe rule at my house: On your feet or in the closet. Anything else just gets in the way. Closets are big enough for multiple pairs of shoes and stalling isn't allowed. That's also my opinion on the symbolic "shoe"....

IBB is cleaning up the messy aspects of the 2005 CBA. A perfect time to rearrange the closet I think...

Sorry NJW, that shoe was too big to fit in the IBB closet. Still in mid-air and will be this time next year. The kids will still be fighting over the shoe for quite a while after that until "Daddy" (or "Uncle" if you prefer) says who gets to wear it.

 

[Ultra Grump]

IBB is cleaning up the messy aspects of the 2005 CBA.

Are you sure about that? The word is that the new CBA will be over 30 pages MORE than the 2005 CBA. Sounds a little more cluttered to me. The PTO system, with long-term and short-term banks, how many in each and when they can be used, number of PTO days/yr based on longevity, etc, is just one example of unnecessary complication.