NetJet, and the approaches used.

[LarryinTN]

Does NJA do any CATII/III approaches?

 

[Diesel]

nope.

 

[RTRHD]

It will be a while before the IV are doing the rnp .03 special approaches because the avionics aren't set up for it. I guess it has to do with some annunciations and stuff like that.

They don't know if they will have a software update for the IV so we don't practice the approaches because the plane can't do it. Let the 50 series guys handle that tough stuff.

With the IV's being slowly led to pasture they will have to look long and hard to see if its worth spending a couple of 100k on this mod. (which isn't even made yet)

The missed for the ASE approach is RNP 1.0 (I thought) so the IV can do it. As for SAR <1.0 RNP missed approach is 50 territory. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Under the original plan for the ASE "special", the classic IV's and V's as well as the -50's would have been able to fly the approach. The major hold up over the past couple of years has been the Fed saying "oh, wait a minute. That's new. We have to create a new type of approach. We'll call it SAAR." Okay, what's the SAAR criteria? "We don't know. We'll get back to you." Fast forward a couple years, and the Fed says "Here's the criteria for SAAR approaches." Guess what? The classic IV's and V's can't meet it. So......

If it ever gets approved, come winter the 450 and the 550 will become the Aspen shuttle.

 

[RTRHD]

Under the original plan for the ASE "special", the classic IV's and V's as well as the -50's would have been able to fly the approach. The major hold up over the past couple of years has been the Fed saying "oh, wait a minute. That's new. We have to create a new type of approach. We'll call it SAAR." Okay, what's the SAAR criteria? "We don't know. We'll get back to you." Fast forward a couple years, and the Fed says "Here's the criteria for SAAR approaches." Guess what? The classic IV's and V's can't meet it. So......

If it ever gets approved, come winter the 450 and the 550 will become the Aspen shuttle.

Cool!!!!! My Bad.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Just regurgitating what they told me at recurrent....I think.

 

[Partyfoul]

Hey GSD and RTRHD......

How do you "manually" select the RNP for the 50 Series? I was always taught that it is automatic based on track miles and type of procedure you have selected in the FMS..? The IV and V cannnot be because the CDI does not change to the lower scaling hence having to use the FD for an RNP approach.
Thanks for any info....

 

[gutshotdraw]

It's somewhere off the NAV page. I'd have to push a couple buttons to get there. Kind of like, I could do it but I couldn't TELL you how to do it. The selection is ultimately on the 1L key once you get to the right page. You also have to de-select DME/DME updating. Then you have to remember to put it all back once you're done.....

 

[RTRHD]

Hey GSD and RTRHD......

How do you "manually" select the RNP for the 50 Series? I was always taught that it is automatic based on track miles and type of procedure you have selected in the FMS..? The IV and V cannnot be because the CDI does not change to the lower scaling hence having to use the FD for an RNP approach.
Thanks for any info....

I can't find the exact page either. I don't have a program for the MCDU. But like GSD said it's on the Nav pages in 1L.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Position Sensors page. Select VOR/DME. Delete 1L. Delete 2L. Repeat on MCDU 2 and 3.

Progress Page 2 Type 0.3 and select 1L.

Confirm GPS is the FMS navigation mode, check RAIM, use vertical profile, crosscheck altimeters by the FAF, monitor RNP and EPU throughout approach on the PFD.

E I E I O....