Nepotism at CAL

[mckpickle]

Really?!?!?!?! Hey McDork, apparently you weren't as qualified as you thought. Enjoy your "career" at XJT especially with the upcoming pay cut with the "world owes me" attitude. Have you always been so bitter?

Now why is it that I wasn't qualified? I seem to recall passing the interview and sim ride. Thank you for the support though. I will enjoy my career at XJT, or whatever other airline I decide to goto, thank you. And for the record when a company tells you that you are hired and tell you as a condition of that you must adhere to certain things.........AND THEN change the rules and place 300 guys ahead of you in seniority..... Now why would I be bitter.

Otherwise Miles Tooldouche you can kiss my a$$. Jerkwad

 

[24 carat]

Still relatively new to flying, and definitely the jobsearch, I don't find networking that easy. I have no problem being nice to people but I find it hard to go out of my way to make those people, those that I think I might need, feel special. It makes me uneasy and, quite frankly, in my mind it is not far of from brown nosing. At the very least it is all not very genuine.

I do understand its purposes though. I can see the point from the company perspective, having so many applications, why not narrow it down on the bases of recommendation of company employees. Could do worse, I suppose. But it's one thing getting an interview this way and from then on being on your own; getting through the interview on your own merit. It's quite another if the interview is basically a done deal (wink, wink) as soon as somebody recommends you. I sure hope the second scenario is not often the case with the bigger companies.

 

[Cardinal]

Life is hard.
Some kids are born poor, and have to dig ditches to pay for every one of their first 400 hours. Some are born wealthy and fly their own shiny twin around until they get a job. Should their be a federal government Early Aviation Experience Financial Redistribution Reallocation and Transfer Program (EAEFRRTP) to help the poor and punish the wealthy? No, and if you think otherwise you are a communist. Anyway, you probably pull more chicks at a bar than I do, I'll just have to get over it.

Incidentally, everybody from my company that has interviewed at CAL has "known" somebody. All of these individuals have also been shot down at the interview. That means sardinesnack's application is two places higher in the stack Rejoice for these little victories.

 

[Diesel]

The world will allways need ditch diggers.

 

[Cardinal]

I just saw this posted by member LHD on ar15.com. I couldn't help but think back to this thread. Forgive me, cause it isn't exactly gentle, but hilarious for sure.

Their cross is not mine to bear.

Life sucks and then you die. Everyone has to take a bite of a sh!t sandwich sometimes. People need to stop using these things as an excuse and start acting like mentally developed, sentient beings capable of feeling.

If you had a sh!tty life, I'll listen to your woe. But if you expect to use that as a reason to go all fruitbat on me then you're mistaken. This is the real world where lions eat gazelles, families get evicted from thier homes and I dont have time for you to act like a nutcase.



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For what it's worth, sardines, I do feel that the recruitment process at most airlines is a bizzare, corrupt, disingenuous farce. But what are ya gonna do about it? I don't have 3 buddies at FedEx, don't want to mark myself with a 737 type for the scant likelihood of a SWA job, my airplane doesn't weigh 20,000 pounds to qualify at JetBlue. We all have obstacles.....

 

[Patriot328]

I just saw this posted by member LHD on ar15.com. I couldn't help but think back to this thread. Forgive me, cause it isn't exactly gentle, but hilarious for sure.

Their cross is not mine to bear.

Life sucks and then you die. Everyone has to take a bite of a sh!t sandwich sometimes. People need to stop using these things as an excuse and start acting like mentally developed, sentient beings capable of feeling.

If you had a sh!tty life, I'll listen to your woe. But if you expect to use that as a reason to go all fruitbat on me then you're mistaken. This is the real world where lions eat gazelles, families get evicted from thier homes and I dont have time for you to act like a nutcase.



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AND THAT, RIGHT THERE, IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICAN WOMEN....

 

[Photoflight]

well if the 35 year old and the 25 year old are equally qualified...and the 25 year old has a good rep is a good stick and a great guy...why should the age be a factor. Simply being older doesn't "earn" you anything, especially in this business.

Being older and having been in the biz longer...IMHO......does.

 

[Cardinal]

Good call, PatriotDork! I always figured you were one and the same over there...

 

[LJDRVR]

You make me want to vomit.

Awesome! Thanks for putting a big smile on my face, low-lead. I hope you gagged on the bile and had dry heaves too!

Thanks for the sunshine there, puddin.

 

[Patriot328]

Good call, PatriotDork! I always figured you were one and the same over there...

Yeah I'm too lazy to come up with different screen names. I figured there were a few arfcommers running around here.

 

[Diesel]

Look at nepotism of Fedex and military pilots.

Nothing new in aviation. It's not what you know it's who you know.

 

[100LL... Again!]

Awesome! Thanks for putting a big smile on my face, low-lead. I hope you gagged on the bile and had dry heaves too!

Thanks for the sunshine there, puddin.

Glad to see that you'd hire your own child over a professional who paid their dues for years. That is what dictators do too.

 

[LJDRVR]

Glad to see that you'd hire your own child over a professional who paid their dues for years. That is what dictators do too.

Of course I would. If my son or daughter was trying to gain employment at my airline, I would do everything possible within my power to get them hired. What loving parent wouldn't? Oh, that's right, YOU. Even though your kid is an adult at this point, you'd still feel it their best interest to try to teach them some imagined lesson on the importance of paying dues? What are you smoking?

Your kid's personality is formed by the age of five. The remainder of their childhood is an opportunity for you as a parent to imprint certain values. Once they're adults, the cake is pretty much baked. Witholding your support and assistance when they are working in the same career as you accomplished nothing but hurt, resentment and acrimony, just to name a few.

With such a skewed sense of moral authority and your self-imagined mandate for character building, the question that begs answering is: How did you find a woman desperate enough to procreate with you? She must have loved it when the rest of your emotionaly stunted "skeletons" came out of the closet.

Just funnin ya', I think you and I would be in perfect agreement on the importance of teaching our children that hard work and persistance pays off. But can you honestly sit here and tell me that your lack of assistance (Along with the frustation and pain that accompany it) would be of more value to your adult child than you helping them get career job a little faster than they could have done so on their own?

 

[100LL... Again!]

...personality is formed by the age of five.[\quote]

Resisting wide-open cheap shot opportunity.

The remainder of their childhood is an opportunity for you as a parent to imprint certain values. Once they're adults, the cake is pretty much baked. Witholding your support and assistance when they are working in the same career as you accomplished nothing but hurt, resentment and acrimony, just to name a few.

With such a skewed sense of moral authority and your self-imagined mandate for character building, the question that begs answering is: How did you find a woman desperate enough to procreate with you? She must have loved it when the rest of your emotionaly stunted "skeletons" came out of the closet.

Just funnin ya', I think you and I would be in perfect agreement on the importance of teaching our children that hard work and persistance pays off. But can you honestly sit here and tell me that your lack of assistance (Along with the frustation and pain that accompany it) would be of more value to your adult child than you helping them get career job a little faster than they could have done so on their own?

My 1200 hour son could and would have to wait until I felt he merited moving to the next step. Advancing people beyond their due stunts their development.

 

[LJDRVR]

My 1200 hour son could and would have to wait until I felt he merited moving to the next step. Advancing people beyond their due stunts their development.

Say what? First off, kindly explain what determines a persons "due". Eastern airlines hired single-engine private pilots in the mid sixties, trained them in an aero commander, then stuck them in DC-9's. Many of these gentlement flew entire careers without bending metal. Where was their development stunted? Outside of market forces in the arena of employment, what cosmic force determines what a person is due? Certainly not their parent attempting to make imoprant life descision for their offspring beyond the age of twenty one.

100, I really think you're pulling this stuff completely out of your rear end. Can you give me an example of a professional pilot whose parent's influence and assistance resulted in a less than capable aviator? Can you also justify why that single occurence should result in your blanket rejection of such action?