Neeleman says B6 needs Midwest Hub

[F9 Driver]

I'm too lazy to do a search. Do F9 pilots have a contract/union?

Yes/Frontier Airlines Pilots Association

 

[SWA/FO]

Looks as if AirTran (Da Tranny) has beaten B6 into MDW.

AirTran Makes Dallas And Charlotte Chicago's Biggest Names

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AP Photo/Air Tran Photo, Brian Kersey

In this photo provided by AirTran Airways, Charlotte McDuffie and Charlotte Hogan hug after receiving a free round-trip ticket on AirTran Friday, June 9, 2006 in Chicago. AirTran gave away free tickets Friday to people named Charlotte or Dallas to mark new non-stop service from Chicago's Midway Airport to Dallas-Fort Worth and Charlotte, N.C.​

PR newswire

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AirTran Airways, a subsidiary of AirTran Holdings, Inc., today took name-dropping to new heights as it celebrated its new nonstop service from Chicago to Dallas/Ft. Worth and Charlotte. The airline recently began daily nonstop flights between Chicago's Midway International Airport and Dallas/Ft. Worth International Airport and Charlotte Douglas International Airport.

AirTran Airways, Chicago Midway's second largest carrier, and US 99.5 FM, Chicago's country station, issued a call-out to anyone in the Chicagoland area named Charlotte and Dallas to join them in the heart of the windy city to celebrate the airline's newest destinations from Midway. Hundreds of Chicagoans flocked to Michigan Plaza in downtown Chicago to celebrate with AirTran Airways' Crew Members and on-air personalities from US 99.5. The first 50 people at the event named Dallas and Charlotte received free round-trip tickets anywhere the airline flies in the U.S. Complete with a red carpet entrance, entertainment and giveaways, AirTran Airways proved that -- for people named Dallas and Charlotte -- it's all in a name.

"Regardless of their name, AirTran Airways continues to offer Chicago business and leisure travelers new and affordable options to some of the most desired destinations in the country," said Tad Hutcheson, AirTran Airways' vice president of marketing and sales. "With the youngest all-Boeing fleet of aircraft in America, affordable Business Class, and assigned seating on every flight, there's no better way for Chicagoans to get acquainted with Dallas and Charlotte than by flying AirTran Airways."

AirTran Airways' addition of nonstop service to Dallas and Charlotte builds on the airline's expanding route map from Chicago's Midway International Airport just in time for the busy summer travel season. The airline currently operates 32 daily flights from Chicago.

 

[B6Driver]

We're coming into ORD.

 

[LoveGun]

At the SWA pilot open house one of the SWA speakers mentioned JFK as the next possible southwest expansion city.

 

[B6Driver]

So...........
Lots of room for everybody but AMR and DAL ain't going to like it.

 

[AAflyer]

So...........
Lots of room for everybody but AMR and DAL ain't going to like it.

Uh, actually no. My gripe is not B6 coming to ORD, it is the fact that ORD forced certain airlines last year to amend their schedule. AA and UAL were told to cut a % of their departures due to airport congestion.

Why should two airlines reduce flights at the direction of the airport authority board due to airport congestion, then allow other airlines in?

Before you think this a bash JB post, please read my displeasure with what ORD is doing.

AA

 

[macdu]

I would bet that the percentage the aa and UAL had to reduce the schedules would equal the amount of new code shares they began, ie; Alaska for aa and the various UAL feeders. Probably no net loss is my bet. Just less by aa and UAL themselves, on their aircraft.

 

[AAflyer]

I would bet that the percentage the aa and UAL had to reduce the schedules would equal the amount of new code shares they began, ie; Alaska for aa and the various UAL feeders. Probably no net loss is my bet. Just less by aa and UAL themselves, on their aircraft.

That is an interesting angle, I know the Alaska code-share wouldn't have equalled the number we cut, but if ALL code-share was included ie Int'l as well. I wonder what the numbers would be?

AA

 

[JP4user]

Before you think this a bash JB post, please read my displeasure with what ORD is doing.

AA

You do have to qualify anything about JB as not being a flame as they get their feelings hurt pretty easy. Especially B6.

 

[SWA/FO]

Uh, actually no. My gripe is not B6 coming to ORD, it is the fact that ORD forced certain airlines last year to amend their schedule. AA and UAL were told to cut a % of their departures due to airport congestion.

Why should two airlines reduce flights at the direction of the airport authority board due to airport congestion, then allow other airlines in?

Before you think this a bash JB post, please read my displeasure with what ORD is doing.

AA

Very good point.

 

[BigMotorToter]

Uh, actually no. My gripe is not B6 coming to ORD, it is the fact that ORD forced certain airlines last year to amend their schedule. AA and UAL were told to cut a % of their departures due to airport congestion.

Why should two airlines reduce flights at the direction of the airport authority board due to airport congestion, then allow other airlines in?

Before you think this a bash JB post, please read my displeasure with what ORD is doing.

AA

Because this stupid industry is still partly regulated. We have to do what the Gov. tells us. Either the Gov. needs to get out alltogether or dive back in and re-regulate the entire industry. Until then, we are all being managed by "The Man".

 

[AAflyer]

Because this stupid industry is still partly regulated. We have to do what the Gov. tells us. Either the Gov. needs to get out alltogether or dive back in and re-regulate the entire industry. Until then, we are all being managed by "The Man".

BMT,

You are right, waiting to find a way to "stick it to the man"


regards,

AA

 

[IB6 UB9]

You do have to qualify anything about JB as not being a flame as they get their feelings hurt pretty easy. Especially B6.

I don't think anyone's feelings get hurt. I think, like me, folks are...amused maybe, at a certain few on here who have little to do but pick each and every negative thing about B6 and run with it...hope for it too. This board evolved from a source of info when airlines where hiring like crazy, to a hive of malice (some of it) as some employees took cuts in pay and benefits. People look for a target to lay the blame on...nowadays it just happens to be B6. Weird. Remember folks, at the height of the dry season on the serengeti the waterholes are all but dry...but you don't see the animals all slaughtering each other. They know it will rain again.

 

[StopNTSing]

Warning: Thread Creep!

At the SWA pilot open house one of the SWA speakers mentioned JFK as the next possible southwest expansion city.

I don't like the sound of that....

 

[AAflyer]

I don't think anyone's feelings get hurt. I think, like me, folks are...amused maybe, at a certain few on here who have little to do but pick each and every negative thing about B6 and run with it...hope for it too. This board evolved from a source of info when airlines where hiring like crazy, to a hive of malice (some of it) as some employees took cuts in pay and benefits. People look for a target to lay the blame on...nowadays it just happens to be B6. Weird. Remember folks, at the height of the dry season on the serengeti the waterholes are all but dry...but you don't see the animals all slaughtering each other. They know it will rain again.

Actually when I see all the ill will I think of that line from Aliens. When Ripley tells Burke, the company guy (Paul Riser). " I don;t know which species is worse? I don;t see them fu_king each other over for a g0d d-amn percentage."

AA

 

[JP4user]

I don't think anyone's feelings get hurt. I think, like me, folks are...amused maybe, at a certain few on here who have little to do but pick each and every negative thing about B6 and run with it...hope for it too. This board evolved from a source of info when airlines where hiring like crazy, to a hive of malice (some of it) as some employees took cuts in pay and benefits. People look for a target to lay the blame on...nowadays it just happens to be B6. Weird. Remember folks, at the height of the dry season on the serengeti the waterholes are all but dry...but you don't see the animals all slaughtering each other. They know it will rain again.

But if those animals were pilots, they would still be ripping thier hides to shreds...water or not.

If you want to see a true hive of malice, take a look at yahoo finance and no I do not post there. Now those are some real JB haters.

You weren't the B6 guy I was reffering too by the way.

 

[JP4user]

Actually when I see all the ill will I think of that line from Aliens. When Ripley tells Burke, the company guy (Paul Riser). " I don;t know which species is worse? I don;t see them fu_king each other over for a g0d d-amn percentage."

AA

Ripley is hot. She needs to run for ALPA president. I'd like to see her walk in with that robot thing she wore and knock some of the company negotiators and management right on their ass.

 

[TWA Dude]

Chicago is the only city that makes sense, and Gary/Chicago is the only viable candidate in the area.

Don't know if you're familiar with the area but the wealthiest parts of the Chicago metropolitan area are north of the city followed by west followed by south. Guess where GYY lies? Southeast. MKE already gets a lot of north metro area types. Not saying it's impossible but GYY seems a very unlikely candidate for anyone other than charter airlines.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

I don't like the sound of that....

Wow. I don't think swa could do 15 minute turns at jfk. Well, they could, but then they'd take another hour and 15 to t/o. Gotta love jfk. See avatar.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Looks as if AirTran (Da Tranny) has beaten B6 into MDW.

AirTran Makes Dallas And Charlotte Chicago's Biggest Names

http://www.airportbusiness.com/article/photos/1150120309265_AirTran061206.jpg
AP Photo/Air Tran Photo, Brian Kersey​

In this photo provided by AirTran Airways, Charlotte McDuffie and Charlotte Hogan hug after receiving a free round-trip ticket on AirTran Friday, June 9, 2006 in Chicago. AirTran gave away free tickets Friday to people named Charlotte or Dallas to mark new non-stop service from Chicago's Midway Airport to Dallas-Fort Worth and Charlotte, N.C.​

PR newswire

http://images.cygnusinteractive.com/buttons/logo_lexis.gif
AirTran Airways, a subsidiary of AirTran Holdings, Inc., today took name-dropping to new heights as it celebrated its new nonstop service from Chicago to Dallas/Ft. Worth and Charlotte. The airline recently began daily nonstop flights between Chicago's Midway International Airport and Dallas/Ft. Worth International Airport and Charlotte Douglas International Airport.

AirTran Airways, Chicago Midway's second largest carrier, and US 99.5 FM, Chicago's country station, issued a call-out to anyone in the Chicagoland area named Charlotte and Dallas to join them in the heart of the windy city to celebrate the airline's newest destinations from Midway. Hundreds of Chicagoans flocked to Michigan Plaza in downtown Chicago to celebrate with AirTran Airways' Crew Members and on-air personalities from US 99.5. The first 50 people at the event named Dallas and Charlotte received free round-trip tickets anywhere the airline flies in the U.S. Complete with a red carpet entrance, entertainment and giveaways, AirTran Airways proved that -- for people named Dallas and Charlotte -- it's all in a name.

"Regardless of their name, AirTran Airways continues to offer Chicago business and leisure travelers new and affordable options to some of the most desired destinations in the country," said Tad Hutcheson, AirTran Airways' vice president of marketing and sales. "With the youngest all-Boeing fleet of aircraft in America, affordable Business Class, and assigned seating on every flight, there's no better way for Chicagoans to get acquainted with Dallas and Charlotte than by flying AirTran Airways."

AirTran Airways' addition of nonstop service to Dallas and Charlotte builds on the airline's expanding route map from Chicago's Midway International Airport just in time for the busy summer travel season. The airline currently operates 32 daily flights from Chicago.

We won't go into mdw.

 

[hawkerflyer]

At the SWA pilot open house one of the SWA speakers mentioned JFK as the next possible southwest expansion city.

I guess that's open to each individual's interpretation. The way I understood the comment was that he mentioned JFK-FLL as the #1 city pair, emphasizing the importance of the East Coast markets, but not necessarily implying that SWA was interested in JFK.