Need info on time building

[lynx]

i am a singaporean cfi looking for time building especially on a twin/turbine. willing to fly for someone with no compensation. if anyone knows of such place/company, please advise.

 

[banned username 2]

i am a singaporean cfi looking for time building especially on a twin/turbine. willing to fly for someone with no compensation.

Oh boy... You'd better put on your flame suit! This is gonna hurt!

 

[TDTURBO]

Re: Re: Need info on time building

Oh boy... You'd better put on your flame suit! This is gonna hurt!

LMAO! I don't think he has a clue.

 

[StrykerFL]

Man, why are you willing to whore yourself out like that? That makes things difficult for the rest of us you Plick.

 

[lynx]

it's hard to build time in asia and it's also tough for me to get in singapore airlines, my national carrier without such times. i failed to get into thier cadet program once and i was advised by a senior capt. to get time on turbine or jet so that i can be placed on their learjet program immediately.

if anyone can tell me where i can buy cheap time building, i welcome that too but pls do not critize as everybody is going thru a hard time now.

no idea what you guys meant in earlier posts.

 

[falcondriver]

Thanks for the laugh Falcon Capt.
FD

 

[El Cid Av8or]

lynx:

Let me help you a little with this and tell you why everyone is basically criticizing you.

Flying for free or PFT ("Paying For Training" or "Paying For Time") is the quickest way to get the entire aviation community (pilots, first officers, engineers, navigators, bombardiers, students, etc.) against you. Yes, everyone is pretty much going through some tough times. Those that have jobs are either thankful they have a flying job, are looking for a better-paying flying job, or are trying to find a non-flying job just so they can pay their bills. If people start paying for their advanced flight training (anything after your commerical and instructor ratings) or start working for low or no wages, then everyone else will be expected to do the same. This is not what we need to have happen. Companies would love to have their pilots pay for training and work for lower wages. It would put more money in the manager's pockets (most of which don't deserve it and certainly don't need it).

Truck drivers and pizza delivery people get paid more than most low-time (I'd say less than 2000 hours total time) aviators and they don't have half the responsibility or have to know half the knowledge that is required to take tests, both written and oral, and perform the job functions. That's a perfect example of why we don't need pilots flying for little or no wages.

 

[bobbysamd]

Singapore Airlines

I second El Cid 100%. I will add that paying-for-training is looked down upon because people from all walks of life and not just aviation resent those who find a way to cut in line ahead of them. How do you like it when someone cuts in line in front of you at the bank? At McDonald's, etc? Think about it. Not to mention the fact, and it is indeed a fact, that management just loves and ultimately loathes pilots who will pay for their job.

There are apologists for the practice who say their heart was set on flying for the airlines and that paying-for-training was their only entry. That's not true. That's no justification. There are plenty of places that don't require you to pay for training.

Everyone indeed must endure tough times. I did and I could not endure them anymore. Read my other posts. The truth is that tough times invariably lead to good times. You just have to keep trying.

You have your CFI. Start right now by preparing a resume and sending copies to anyplace that trains pilots. Hand-deliver them to places to which you can drive. Keep at it. Someone will give you a chance. Then, work (and get paid) as hard as you can to build experience.

Also, do research. I am sure there are other carriers in your part of the world that will hire low-time pilots. Also, why can't you apply again at Singapore? You might have better luck.

On that subject, good luck to you - and get paid for what you do.

 

[Flymach2]

Hi...

lynx,

I, along with many others, certainly understand your desire and determination to achieve the goals you have set for yourself.

However, sometimes the roads we choose have detours and now we are faced with decisions on how to reach our destination.

The steps we take are not always the shortest or most desirable. In fact, very rarely are they easy....or short for that matter.

I applaud the fact that you want to do anything possible to make yourself more marketable.

On the other hand, offering your skills, (skills that you undoubtedly worked very hard for), to someone for free is inherently an industry-wide problem.

Reasons? You've probably heard them all so I won't ramble on.

The posts in this thread are not aimed at disrespecting you or your desires to achieve better things for yourself. We all want them.

We also want to be respected professionals within the industry. Giving it away for free will most likely remove all chances of that happening.

Continue to work hard at what you love. You'll be proud that you did.

Regards