Need help on a line ck to SFO.

[Bjammin]

I've got a line check into SFO from ANC having never been there.

They call it the "First Officer Line Check Graveyard" in my company.

I guess I can expect the Golden Gate 4 and be kept high.

Any advice would be great.

Thanks

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

I've got a line check into SFO from ANC having never been there.

They call it the "First Officer Line Check Graveyard" in my company.

I guess I can expect the Golden Gate 4 and be kept high.

Any advice would be great.

Thanks

I see you've been in the 737 and 747. Not sure about the whale but with the guppy the Golden Gate 4 brought you for a right downwind for the 28's. Cross LOZIT at FL110 I slow to 220-230 just prior to abeam the airport at assigned alt. With lower or the visual, flaps 5 LVL CHG and keep 220-230. Come screaming down in the slot.
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0604/00375GOLDENGATE.PDF

I have on occasion received the Point Reyes One Arrival, albiet rarely coming from the North..
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0604/00375POINTREYES.PDF

You got it made. Airports out your window, Get em mate!

 

[Bjammin]

Awsome! That's the kinda gouge I'm looking for. Sounds like it will work in the whale.

Anyone else?

 

[mar]

Disclaimer: I've never operated into SFO

On my last sim check we practiced the PRM approaches into SFO.

I don't know if you're familiar with these. It's probably only a factor if the weather is foggy and you'd probably come across it when you got ready to brief anyway, but fore-warned is fore-armed.

http://web.nbaa.org/public/ops/airspace/ac_90_98.pdf

If you have more questions about it let me know and I'll dig thru my notes.

Good luck.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I've got a line check into SFO from ANC having never been there.

They call it the "First Officer Line Check Graveyard" in my company.

I guess I can expect the Golden Gate 4 and be kept high.

Any advice would be great.

Thanks

Hey,
Just be prompt on the descent clearances, no lagging, if you are trained on the PRM review the notes on the plate(lots o words), Fly S.O.P. it really is a non-event. Study your 10-9 there are some 747 taxi issues, might apply for your parking taxi. Check all the STARS for arrival info, most are runway oriented. If the wind is from the south expect the 10L ILS with a possible sidestep(weight permitting)
PBR
If WX is good enjoy the view!
P.S. Check the S.I.D.s couple a altitude restrictions.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Go slower and configure earlier than you think you should and you'll look like a genius. I usually get the Quiet Bridge Visual or FMS Bridge Visual to 28L/R (which in my aircraft is coded as RNAV). I've never seen any airplane land on the 10's.

 

[Capi_Cafre']

Go slower and configure earlier than you think you should and you'll look like a genius. I usually get the Quiet Bridge Visual or FMS Bridge Visual to 28L/R (which in my aircraft is coded as RNAV). I've never seen any airplane land on the 10's.

What they said. It's all about the descent gradient. Pretty good controllers too-as long as you do your part they won't hang you out to dry.

 

[Bjammin]

Thanks Guys!

It's nice to know there are true profeesionals that will help a stranger out.

I truly do apperciate the gouge.

It looks like the WX may be crappy and they''ll have a couple of runways closed when I get there, but I will FOR SURE be conservitive in my descent, especially because we'll be heavy weight.

Thanks again.

I leave in a hour so no more replys will be nessesary.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

If the wx goes to crap you might expect holding over PYE.
Usually it will be "as published, leg lengths your discretion." Good alternates include OAK, SJC, and SMF. Not much fuel burn to get to any of those.

 

[regionaltard]

If the wx goes to crap you might expect holding over PYE.
Usually it will be "as published, leg lengths your discretion." Good alternates include OAK, SJC, and SMF. Not much fuel burn to get to any of those.

Heh heh, shoulda been there about a month ago when both SFO and OAK were shut down due to high winds. In the middle of all that chaos NorCal was able to take a SFO-bound Phillipines crew (clearly at its wits' end when their OAK alternate vanished) by the hand and lead them to SMF despite its already overwhelming workload.

 

[traffic pilot]

I did not realize that FO's got line checked at other airlines. I may be missing something but I thought only Captains got a line check. 99.9% of the time if the captains getting a line check he will fly the leg at least I've found this to be true from my limited experience.

Can someone clarify?

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I've never seen any airplane land on the 10's.

Done it quite a few times myself, try flying the bay area, on the southern arrival plan. 20+ years of bay area flyin'.
PBR

 

[Jolly Roger]

I did not realize that FO's got line checked at other airlines. I may be missing something but I thought only Captains got a line check. 99.9% of the time if the captains getting a line check he will fly the leg at least I've found this to be true from my limited experience.

Can someone clarify?

This is true in N America, but many international companies check the FO's on Line Checks as well as PC's, just like the captain. Throw in a bit of perpetual rustiness while only getting a couple of landings a month on the long haul gig, and every line check becomes a point of interest.

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Make sure you get current altimeter settings. The Bay area has some funky atmpospheric conditions as you cross valleys and ridges. Meter settings can change a lot over 10-20 miles.

Good luck! If you made it through Cathay you can pass a line check.

 

[Bjammin]

Well, I'm back and all went very well.

I again very much thank you for your input. It was just as expected. Golden Gate 4 arrival, HDG 140 off of the SFO VOR at 11000, then the slam dunk to ILS 28R. The WX was just bad enough to keep from doing the visual.

We need to get line checks because the FO's are all type rated. We usually carry one captain and two type rated FO's on the long hauls from ANC to HKG. One of the FO's is qualified as a relief Captain.

I again thank you guys for your professionalism and would be glad to pay it back in any way.

Thanks

 

[Instinct]

Done it quite a few times myself, try flying the bay area, on the southern arrival plan. 20+ years of bay area flyin'.
PBR

How about landing on 1L/R? I've seen a few pics on airliners.net. Now THAT seems wild!!

 

[Dave Benjamin]

I've seen it happen a few times. Earlier this year we were landing the 10's on an absolutely gorgeous day. Nice change in scenery coming over the northern portion of Pacifica. You can see where the San Andreas fault runs into the ocean.