Neat Pilot Pay Comparison Charts

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Looking at these numbers it appears Skywest Management's demand (through ASA's proxy puppets) is way low and our MEC's demand is similarly high. So split the baby, get scope language and be done with it.

An extra day off a month is a week and a half by the end of the year. There will be another couple of days off as a result of better schedules (versus displacements with a fleet reduction). I understand and am sympathetic to the idea of "Full Pay to the Last Day" but play with the numbers and see what you think for your self.

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.info/pay_comparisons/regional_jet_aircraft/crj_700_2006011720.html

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

Those charts are interesting. I have a good buddy at ASA, I just hope the negotiations are complete soon. Good luck to you guys.

Wow, this is a shocker - Mesa's pay on the 700 is less than or comparable to almost everyone's pay on the 145.
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.info/pay_comparisons/regional_jet_aircraft/emb_145_%10_emb_140_2006011719.html

Sorry, I'm hijacking. Moving along....

 

[ASADriver]

It looks to me like the companies proposal on 70 seat rates is closer to the industry standard than ALPAs.

 

[sXeflyer]

wow, for some reason mesa is the lowest on every tab?!?!?! Must be a typo!

 

[Cloudroller]

Might be: 3 year pay for Mesa 145 FO is not 22 / 7 year pay is not 25

 

[OldManPilot]

Chautauqua max CA pay = $108 which is #3 on the list (if it were added)

 

[buscap]

so very wrong

Looking at these numbers it appears Skywest Management's demand (through ASA's proxy puppets) is way low and our MEC's demand is similarly high. So split the baby, get scope language and be done with it.

An extra day off a month is a week and a half by the end of the year. There will be another couple of days off as a result of better schedules (versus displacements with a fleet reduction). I understand and am sympathetic to the idea of "Full Pay to the Last Day" but play with the numbers and see what you think for your self.

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.info/pay_comparisons/regional_jet_aircraft/crj_700_2006011720.html

No offense, but we are working for a profitable company. A profitable company which purchased our assets and contract. There is absolutely no good reason for us to stand for a paycut.

While quality of life or other issues can absolutely be swapped for payrates in a contract, I have not seen a single piece of matched language which is worth any amount of paycut. And I am suspicious of banking on contract language only to have it taken away later in grievances. A payscale is fairly hard for the company to change later on, no matter who their lawyers are.

Profit sharing and performance incentives are also suspect issues given the history of ASA management. If anyone could figure out how to screw us out of profit sharing or incentive pay, it's these guys. They can't pay us properly half the time without those complications!

Are we any less profitable than the day we were purchased?...No.

Are our 7o-seat pilots any less productive than the day we were purchased?...No.

Will growth be guaranteed if we take a paycut?...No. Just ask Comair.

Is status quoe on all paycsales a paycut?...Absolutely yes.

If Skywest were losing money, it would be a different situation. But they are not losing money. Their stock is a wall-street darling for many reasons, but getting a paycut from pilots while the rest of the company gets payraises (performance incentives) should not be one of those reasons.

Anyone who thinks we should take a paycut in order to grow or not shrink has already given up the fight.