Ndb approaches?

[paid4training]

Are there any airlines that shoot ndb approaches anymore or is everything Vor/ILS?

 

[Plankster]

My carrier does if it's the only one available .

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Only the Saabs are allowed to do them at Mesaba, the CRJs have to do GPS instead.

 

[v1valarob]

We use them as part of the approach. Don't think we have any airports that only have an NDB approach. Because of the limited radar coverage in some places, we can often be given direct to an NDB and the fly the full ILS after the procedure turn. Its often easier than being vectored very close in and having to "nose over" to catch the glideslope.

 

[SEVEN]

Are there any airlines that shoot ndb approaches anymore or is everything Vor/ILS?

Do them all the time in the Saab up at KCIU. NDB RW33 to mins in snowstorms all day long. At CYXU too.

 

[homerjdispatch]

SUN has one that the EMB's do out of SLC for OO when unable to do the GPS.

 

[flyboyike]

En-dee what?

 

[Rough67]

We do every so often.. 35 into PNS comes to mind if windy from the north.

 

[OCP]

9 years at ASA never done one other than Brasilia training.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Do them all the time in the Saab up at KCIU. NDB RW33 to mins in snowstorms all day long. At CYXU too.

How long have you been off the Saab... I left it over 3.5 years ago and know both parts of that are currently wrong.... It would be 34 in CIU, and we haven't been to London on the Saab in ages.... Even going to Kitchner though, having a short crosswind runway didn't require an NDB...
Actually come to think of it. Not only Kitchner but now London have been cut entirely by Delta....

 

[AeroDMB]

Eagle on the ATR down in the Caribbean...what's left of them down there.

 

[titans10]

The real 9 does.

 

[SEVEN]

How long have you been off the Saab... I left it over 3.5 years ago and know both parts of that are currently wrong.... It would be 34 in CIU, and we haven't been to London on the Saab in ages.... Even going to Kitchner though, having a short crosswind runway didn't require an NDB...
Actually come to think of it. Not only Kitchner but now London have been cut entirely by Delta....

Still on the Saab. We did them in London, ON occasionally but of course we don't go there anymore. Still go to CIU and do them a few times here and there.

 

[145BOSS]

Not approved at either ExpressJet or Continental.

 

[SEVEN]

The real 9 does.

Real pilots fly NDB approaches.

 

[bri5150]

I was dead nuts on the radial from the OM NDB in EAU and the damn airport was still at 2 o'clock. Thank god we can't do GPS's in the Saab. They may not be accurate.

p.s. The ILS was down. I don't choose to do the NDB.

 

[Guitar Guy]

Is Great Lakes still doing NDB approaches? I can remember doing NDB circle-to-lands there on line and not just in training.

 

[Can8dn]

Yes, But now that the Montana flying is gone we don't have many airports with only NDB approaches..

 

[bertengineer]

NDB approach into Ottawa Canada. Did it quite a few times in the CRJ, and did one 2 weeks ago in the LR 55.

 

[Guitar Guy]

Yes, But now that the Montana flying is gone we don't have many airports with only NDB approaches..

I can remember doing the NDB 26 at CYS and circling to the shorter runway when 8/26 was closed shortly before I left Lakes. But it's been a while.

 

[808pilot]

i remember at lakes you had to have the NDB down cold... that was the only way in at Show Low, AZ... my instrument skills were never better than my time at lakes...

 

[SizzleChest]

YX isn't approved for NDBs.... LOC/GPS is as simple as they can go these days. Also not approved for circling in less than VMC....

 

[WMUSIGPI]

I was dead nuts on the radial from the OM NDB in EAU and the damn airport was still at 2 o'clock. Thank god we can't do GPS's in the Saab. They may not be accurate.

p.s. The ILS was down. I don't choose to do the NDB.

And that's why you do the NDB "backed up by the FMS" approach in the Saab. Worst I ever saw was being lined up perfectly with the parallel taxiway in London.

Just as we do the VOR "backed up by the FMS" in the CRJ... actually check that, the PF flies it in white (the FMS) and it's backed up by the PM flying it in green (actually using the VOR)

 

[SEVEN]

And that's why you do the NDB "backed up by the FMS" approach in the Saab. Worst I ever saw was being lined up perfectly with the parallel taxiway in London.

Just as we do the VOR "backed up by the FMS" in the CRJ... actually check that, the PF flies it in white (the FMS) and it's backed up by the PM flying it in green (actually using the VOR)

Actually, I learned to just shoot the ILS with a TW in YXU. Seemed like if the vis was down around a mile, it was tough to get in on the NDB.

 

[bri5150]

And that's why you do the NDB "backed up by the FMS" approach in the Saab. Worst I ever saw was being lined up perfectly with the parallel taxiway in London.

Just as we do the VOR "backed up by the FMS" in the CRJ... actually check that, the PF flies it in white (the FMS) and it's backed up by the PM flying it in green (actually using the VOR)

I usually do, but there was something going on so we couldn't. I think it was a last second change or something and there wasn't time or something like that.

 

["v"]

Real pilots fly NDB approaches.

Absolutely! Downwind, circling and at night too!

Did them all the time back in Australia. Great way to build a scan!

 

[paid4training]

Great... Now I gotta find an ndb for my Cherokee!!!! Damn!!!!

 

[titans10]

Real pilots fly NDB approaches.

Yes they do. However, not in RJ's.

 

[AC560]

Yes they do. However, not in RJ's.

Ergo real pilots don't fly RJ's?

*joke for you sensitive f#$cks*

 

[Can8dn]

I can remember doing the NDB 26 at CYS and circling to the shorter runway when 8/26 was closed shortly before I left Lakes. But it's been a while.

Thats still the NDB approach of choice in the training dept. of course with 25 kts of xwind.