N501RH Hendricks King Air NTSB summary out

[AngelKing]

The approach started out unstable and ended the same. They should have taken a turn in holding and crossed the IAF and the correct altitude. IF they'd have done that, we wouldn't even be talking about it.

But geez, headed inbound and down hill, in mountainous terrain, they crossed the IAF 1500 feet about the correct altitude.

Then, they proceeded to cross the threshold AT the IAF altitude. What on earth made them think they could land out of that!?

Does anyone here think they even knew where they were?

This was the type of crap my post was made for, this guy would never have a bad approach, would never make a bad decision, is textbook perfect in everything he does, jeez give me a break.

AK

 

[ultrarunner]

I hear ya. It's easy to armchair. And these accidents do seem predictable. I happened to notice the tenure of the flight crew. They'd flow into that airport in that plane (or it's twin) may times before.

The FO was somewhat new, but had likley also been in there before. An earlier report indicated that the FA was the PF, so maybe there was some "instucting" going on. But she was also reasonably experienced, and this was a pretty generic NP approach.

Discuss the issues and keep awareness, and hopefully none of us here will be reading about each other.

 

[AngelKing]

I hear ya. It's easy to armchair. And these accidents do seem predictable. I happened to notice the tenure of the flight crew. They'd flow into that airport in that plane (or it's twin) may times before.

The FO was somewhat new, but had likley also been in there before. An earlier report indicated that the FA was the PF, so maybe there was some "instucting" going on. But she was also reasonably experienced, and this was a pretty generic NP approach.

Discuss the issues and keep awareness, and hopefully none of us here will be reading about each other.

cheers:beer:

AK

 

[kf4amu]

I got the impression they used the GPS to backup approaches. I have a feeling they relied on it as primary navigation during this approach.

It says in the report their actions were consistent with the unrealization that the GPS had switched over to another waypoint instead of the MAP. That doesnt explain the initial unstablized approach or lack of proper execution of the MA procedure...even thought it was 7 miles past the MAP.

 

[shamrock]

Then, they proceeded to cross the threshold AT the IAF altitude. What on earth made them think they could land out of that!?

Looking at how the the profile they flew parallels but doesn't match the approach profile I'd say it looks like they were one fix off on the approach. Having flown with the Captain of this flight I'm pretty sure he would know that a landing from 1600 feet above the threshold wasn't going to work, so in response to this.....

Does anyone here think they even knew where they were?

....I would say that no, I don't think they knew where they were.