My Mesa Interview (June 21)

[pilot754]

On the day I interviewed was June 21. My total logbook time was 1217 and with 124 MEL and just meeting the FAR 135 min. IFR requirements

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Some people their were less then me by far amount and some had lots more then I did. One interesting note is one applicant who washed out on the written. Already is employed by Eagle and has been their 7.5 yrs. as FO. He was willing to ship over to Mesa for the street captain or 6 mo. upgrade in the dash. But, he did not study for the written. We had twenty-three souls and twenty-two made it to the face-face.

For me mine was a 2:1 form interview. I'll admit it was my first and I was stumped on a couple of things. Some things I knew the answer too but don't think it came out as it should have. Think I let my nerves get the best of me. They need somwhere in the area of 200 be appropriately staffed. We had one from the PACE program and another who works as ground crew from Air Midwest in N. Dakota and the regional chief pilot approved him on a special case. For me I came in with 1) Internal Sr. Capt. / IOE Sr. Check Airman out of ORD. We have known one another more than 5 yrs.

Later on today when I am able to all questions to the best of my ability will be posted both on here and on aviationinterviews.com

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My posting from JetC.com

 

[Burt Reynolds]

I got post #2 on a 10 page thread!

 

[MarineGrunt]

2......

 

[Fly2Scuba]

On the day I interviewed was June 21. My total logbook time was 1217 and with 124 MEL and just meeting the FAR 135 min. IFR requirements http://www.jetcareers.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif.
Some people their were less then me by far amount and some had lots more then I did. One interesting note is one applicant who washed out on the written. Already is employed by Eagle and has been their 7.5 yrs. as FO. He was willing to ship over to Mesa for the street captain or 6 mo. upgrade in the dash. But, he did not study for the written. We had twenty-three souls and twenty-two made it to the face-face.

For me mine was a 2:1 form interview. I'll admit it was my first and I was stumped on a couple of things. Some things I knew the answer too but don't think it came out as it should have. Think I let my nerves get the best of me. They need somwhere in the area of 200 be appropriately staffed. We had one from the PACE program and another who works as ground crew from Air Midwest in N. Dakota and the regional chief pilot approved him on a special case. For me I came in with 1) Internal Sr. Capt. / IOE Sr. Check Airman out of ORD. We have known one another more than 5 yrs.

Later on today when I am able to all questions to the best of my ability will be posted both on here and on aviationinterviews.com

[email protected]
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My posting from JetC.com

I'm on a weather delay, with time, so my input is if you accept a job at that scumbag outfit, please be proactive in furthering the airline pilot profession; don't just pretend like it's a stepping stone. Don't bend over for management and realize that the airline can treat you much better then what their getting away with now. In other words, don't be a used car salesman who's just looking to screw everyone else over (pilots at other airlines) in accomplishing your goals. It's unethical and prickish.

 

[Catbert]

I got post #2 on a 10 page thread!

I got some popcorn and beer. Just about ready for the show. This is going to be fun. Quiet up front...

 

[khsgt]

I got post #6!

Really, the Mesa pilot group is really striving to make some progress. We have elected all new leadership (MEC) and just recalled our Neg. Comm Chairman last week. The pilot group as a whole is very angry and resentful of all the "abuse" and I think everybody is going to see some good changes as far as our contract is concerned. Ammendable March 2007, and I expect a long drawn out battle, possibly ending in a strike. Anybody that elects to come here right now needs to be ready for a fight, because you are about to be in the middle of one, a very nasty one that has been a long time coming.

On that note...street captains on the 1900 and dash right now...basing sucks(outstation) and the commute would be even worse, but its about the quickest PIC out there. We are at 1860 pilots right now, having hired 65 in the last month and over 200 for the year, and this is expected to continue for the remainder of the week for sure, after that, who knows.....

 

[Jetpipeovht]

I got post #6!

Really, the Mesa pilot group is really striving to make some progress. We have elected all new leadership (MEC) and just recalled our Neg. Comm Chairman last week. The pilot group as a whole is very angry and resentful of all the "abuse" and I think everybody is going to see some good changes as far as our contract is concerned. Ammendable March 2007, and I expect a long drawn out battle, possibly ending in a strike. Anybody that elects to come here right now needs to be ready for a fight, because you are about to be in the middle of one, a very nasty one that has been a long time coming.

On that note...street captains on the 1900 and dash right now...basing sucks(outstation) and the commute would be even worse, but its about the quickest PIC out there. We are at 1860 pilots right now, having hired 65 in the last month and over 200 for the year, and this is expected to continue for the remainder of the week for sure, after that, who knows.....

Well I certainly hope you Mesa folks get some balls and make an example like comair did years ago. That scumbag Ornstein has alot more to lose if you guys strike to get what you want.

 

[mckpickle]

......For me I came in with 1) Internal Sr. Capt. / IOE Sr. Check Airman out of ORD. We have known one another more than 5 yrs.

I would reconsider who I called a friend. Friends just don't do this to friends!

 

[scar1900]

Well I certainly hope you Mesa folks get some balls and make an example like comair did years ago.

You know, I respect the hard work that Comair pilots did to earn their contract, but I wish for once someone would realize that Comair negotiated their contract during one the greatest periods in airline history while Mesa went to the table a little after 9/11. Why does everyone always forget that fact?

Not taking anything away from Comair, they did what needed to be done. Just trying to add some context to the "mesa sux" debate.

 

[phc]

I'm an ignorant new person here (just recently started looking at regionals) and am trying to sift through all this mess. Can someone briefly (and nicely) explain to me why Mesa sucks more than others? I see everybody putting them down but I don't know anything about the company. Obviously you only learn one side from a company's website...

 

[urflyingme?!]

HOw about Comair right now?

 

[COOPERVANE]

"I'm an ignorant new person here (just recently started looking at regionals) and am trying to sift through all this mess. Can someone briefly (and nicely) explain to me why Mesa sucks more than others? I see everybody putting them down but I don't know anything about the company. Obviously you only learn one side from a company's website"



Where to start.....do a search

 

[phc]

Well, that was helpful - thanks!

 

[punkpilot48]

Well, that was helpful - thanks!

Bad contract bad managment low morale

Its not even worth making a sentence

 

[cmrflyer]

HOw about Comair right now?

Well apart from the fact we have been forced into BK by delta's fantastic mgt team, and we have been undercut by every scumbag pilot group flying today, everything is fine, why did you ask?

 

[ImRickJames]

Well apart from the fact we have been forced into BK by delta's fantastic mgt team, and we have been undercut by every scumbag pilot group flying today, everything is fine, why did you ask?

Oh come on now! Take a stand against management, grow some balls and take the fight to Delta corporate. Don't bring the industry down like Mesa. If you guys and ASA don't fight back till the last man standing, you will set a new low,low,low standard and then the regionals will really start to deteriorate.
With all the garbage that comes out of the mouths of ASS and CUMAIR guys, I hope you guys raise the bar, but from what it seems you guys are getting your rears pounded right now. This is your chance to reverse the trend. I will be waiting to see if you guys can pull it off or if you will succumb to reality. Reality is that you don't have control right now because the chips are against you. Do you have a leg to stand on or do you have to give up rules to secure scope?

 

[cmrflyer]

Oh come on now! Take a stand against management, grow some balls and take the fight to Delta corporate. Don't bring the industry down like Mesa. If you guys and ASA don't fight back till the last man standing, you will set a new low,low,low standard and then the regionals will really start to deteriorate.
With all the garbage that comes out of the mouths of ASS and CUMAIR guys, I hope you guys raise the bar, but from what it seems you guys are getting your rears pounded right now. This is your chance to reverse the trend. I will be waiting to see if you guys can pull it off or if you will succumb to reality. Reality is that you don't have control right now because the chips are against you. Do you have a leg to stand on or do you have to give up rules to secure scope?

Yep, like I said, undercut by every scumbag low life tosser able to get his mummy to pay for his flying.
Sorry, did that hit a nerve?
EMB 145, you must be working for a really cool company, how is that new delta paint job look on your jet? Bet you can't wait to buy the model on ebay, you can put it right beside your C152 model and your arse dildo.

 

[Master Shake]

You know, I respect the hard work that Comair pilots did to earn their contract, but I wish for once someone would realize that Comair negotiated their contract during one the greatest periods in airline history while Mesa went to the table a little after 9/11. Why does everyone always forget that fact?

Food for thought: ExpressJet's contract 2004...pretty good considering post-911.

 

[Checknsix]

There is a lot of work to do at Mesa in the next year or so as contract negotiations come to bear. Please consider helping this pilot group with positive comments and suggestions. I am not sure if there is a chance of putting an industry leading contract in place, but it needs to at least be somewhere on the order of COEX's last contract (IMHO).

There is no question, that this pilot group is pretty well fractured due to several different fleets, code share partners, certificates, and geographical locations. Trying to get a common mindset is like herding cats. If you get a Mesa jumpseater, and you recognize him/her as being new to the industry, tell them about some of the nice things you have in your contract that you know we don't have in ours. Compare days off, pay, rigs, JA language, etc. Present it in a positive way, and help us teach our new guys what they should have received from day one. Yea...our union needs to be doing more of this. But they have their heads buried in grievances, displacements, etc. Any help is appreciated.

We have recently replaced our union leadership, and have recently recalled our negotiating committee. Two huge steps here, to help change the status quo. It took several years to get our embedded MEC chair out of his very comfortable chair. JO is a very, very formidable opponent. I wouldn't wish him on any of you other guys. It will be a difficult battle...one that I truly hope goes to a strike vote or farther....as I think it will have to this time.

We may lose a few jobs in this one. I don't have a problem with that. You can either rub it in, or support the guys that are likely to take the hit. Education of not only our guys, but also the CFI's coming into this lousy business is something we should all take responsibility for. We should all consider taking a little time and visit some of those flight schools we left behind, to try to educate the folks there. Personally, I try to chase off our new FO's to other carriers all the time. I think Mesa is really starting to feel some serious heat on lack of new hire candidates.

Thanks for any help and support.

- Checknsix

 

[MINIME]

Checknsix,

That's one of the best posts I've seen on this board yet. It's refreshing to see someone from the inside of your company taking a positive pro-active stance. You got my support! I'll do just that next time I give one of your boys/gals a ride. Keep up the good work. You guys will be key in turning this fight around for all pilots.

 

[Checklist]

There is a lot of work to do at Mesa in the next year or so as contract negotiations come to bear. Please consider helping this pilot group with positive comments and suggestions. I am not sure if there is a chance of putting an industry leading contract in place, but it needs to at least be somewhere on the order of COEX's last contract (IMHO).

There is no question, that this pilot group is pretty well fractured due to several different fleets, code share partners, certificates, and geographical locations. Trying to get a common mindset is like herding cats. If you get a Mesa jumpseater, and you recognize him/her as being new to the industry, tell them about some of the nice things you have in your contract that you know we don't have in ours. Compare days off, pay, rigs, JA language, etc. Present it in a positive way, and help us teach our new guys what they should have received from day one. Yea...our union needs to be doing more of this. But they have their heads buried in grievances, displacements, etc. Any help is appreciated.

We have recently replaced our union leadership, and have recently recalled our negotiating committee. Two huge steps here, to help change the status quo. It took several years to get our embedded MEC chair out of his very comfortable chair. JO is a very, very formidable opponent. I wouldn't wish him on any of you other guys. It will be a difficult battle...one that I truly hope goes to a strike vote or farther....as I think it will have to this time.

We may lose a few jobs in this one. I don't have a problem with that. You can either rub it in, or support the guys that are likely to take the hit. Education of not only our guys, but also the CFI's coming into this lousy business is something we should all take responsibility for. We should all consider taking a little time and visit some of those flight schools we left behind, to try to educate the folks there. Personally, I try to chase off our new FO's to other carriers all the time. I think Mesa is really starting to feel some serious heat on lack of new hire candidates.

Thanks for any help and support.

- Checknsix

Not bashing jsut asking, Do you really think that you pilot group would be united enough to vote yes for a strike.

 

[Dubya]

Bad contract bad managment low morale

Its not even worth making a sentence

Apparently our original poster felt the same way.

"One interesting note is one applicant who washed out on the written. Already is employed by Eagle and has been their 7.5 yrs. as FO. "


Are our schools really that terrible? How do kids like this get through the HR? There is no way they are doing their own resume and cover letters.
Jesus it's hard being a part-time genius. It's lonely almost at the top.

W

 

[Checknsix]

Thanks Minime.

Checklist, we have time to work on this pilot group and get a common mindset going. Our biggest battle will be greed from individuals...something society and pilot groups seem to be suffering more and more of these days.

If we can teach these new guys the value of acting as one, and how that will benefit them more than if they take the small, insincere goodies that the company will be throwing out between now and contract negotiations, we have a chance to make some change. As I said, it is like herding cats when dealing with a pilot group almost 2000 in size and strung out over 20-30 domiciles. It doesn't help that you can hardly put a meeting of ten guys together due to the schedules.

Thanks for any support.

- Checknsix

Checknsix,

That's one of the best posts I've seen on this board yet. It's refreshing to see someone from the inside of your company taking a positive pro-active stance. You got my support! I'll do just that next time I give one of your boys/gals a ride. Keep up the good work. You guys will be key in turning this fight around for all pilots.

 

[labbats]

We should all volunteer our time to visit these flight schools, except we should stay an additional 5 minutes and give spelling lessons.

 

[punkpilot48]

we should stay an additional 5 minutes and give spelling lessons.

No where in the FOI does it say we need to know how to teach our students to spell. Thats good to I dumped that so I can memorize how to do those life saving eights on pylons.

 

[Burt Reynolds]

Homophones - google it.

 

[SuperKooter]

I've said it before and I'll say it again a Mesa F/O hired in 2001 is probably an FO at CAL or Aitran or at the very least a captain while an ASA fo hired in 2001 is still and F/O who will probably lose their job when ALPA pushes the crj-700s out the door. Whos the Sucker now?

 

[jayme]

How do I get this dolt on my "ignore" list?

Seriously.

 

[flyflorida2001]

There is a lot of work to do at Mesa in the next year or so as contract negotiations come to bear. Please consider helping this pilot group with positive comments and suggestions. I am not sure if there is a chance of putting an industry leading contract in place, but it needs to at least be somewhere on the order of COEX's last contract (IMHO).

There is no question, that this pilot group is pretty well fractured due to several different fleets, code share partners, certificates, and geographical locations. Trying to get a common mindset is like herding cats. If you get a Mesa jumpseater, and you recognize him/her as being new to the industry, tell them about some of the nice things you have in your contract that you know we don't have in ours. Compare days off, pay, rigs, JA language, etc. Present it in a positive way, and help us teach our new guys what they should have received from day one. Yea...our union needs to be doing more of this. But they have their heads buried in grievances, displacements, etc. Any help is appreciated.

We have recently replaced our union leadership, and have recently recalled our negotiating committee. Two huge steps here, to help change the status quo. It took several years to get our embedded MEC chair out of his very comfortable chair. JO is a very, very formidable opponent. I wouldn't wish him on any of you other guys. It will be a difficult battle...one that I truly hope goes to a strike vote or farther....as I think it will have to this time.

We may lose a few jobs in this one. I don't have a problem with that. You can either rub it in, or support the guys that are likely to take the hit. Education of not only our guys, but also the CFI's coming into this lousy business is something we should all take responsibility for. We should all consider taking a little time and visit some of those flight schools we left behind, to try to educate the folks there. Personally, I try to chase off our new FO's to other carriers all the time. I think Mesa is really starting to feel some serious heat on lack of new hire candidates.

Thanks for any help and support.

- Checknsix

As a new hire (middle of ground school), I hope that jobs aren't lost. I do, however, know that it is a distinct possibility and am preparing for it.

I would like to thank you checknsix, for bringing a level head to this whole mess. I wish more folks would act in such a manner. I realize that I am coming into a company that has its ups and downs (yes, more downs than ups), but there is potential if the pilots can unite and show JO who the airline really depends on. I haven't been here 2 weeks and I'm already sick of the comments on here about Mesa. Yes, it sux...but come Sept 2007 that should change. Give it time and show support instead of hate.

You may now continue your regularly scheduled bashing.

 

[jayme]

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Ahh, much better!