My daddy....

[minitour]

Oh boy...I almost reached over and smacked him today.

This one guy at school has got this great idea. After he gets his CSEL/MEL/CFI/CFII he's going to get his B737 type because his "daddy works for ___ and I'll get a job quicker because it looks good on a resume"


For your entertainment...our conversation.............again (we seem to have this conversation at least twice a week)

H: You still think getting a type won't get me a job faster than you flying right seat in a 152 huh?
M: Sure, especially when you've got to spend $X every year to get a proficiency check.
H: No, once you're typed, you're typed for good. Its just like a Pilot License.
M: Oh okay, so then I should just go get my A380 type so when I fly for a major in 10 years I can just skip the classes and go straight to the line right? Plus what are you going to say when you go to an interview and they ask bout about some obscure 737 system and you have no idea what they're asking you about?
H: You can get a 380 type already????

*at this point I decided to leave*

Have a happy weekend.

-mini

FNFAL
If you read this - These pizza rolls are making me fat...er. I'm suing too!

 

[minitour]

And when the world of reality kicks him in the teeth, he will try and build time with you some how.
I had one kid tell me he was applying to the Majors carriers after he flies jumpers for 4,000.

I'm jealous...I want to fly jumpers so I can skip the regionals

I guess I shouldn't (and really don't) care what he does. It's his money (or his daddy's) that he's got to waste to get the type and keep it current...

It just amazes me how many people tell him the 73 type doesn't make him sh*t gold bricks...he still doesn't listen.

-mini

 

[PropsForward]

In this day and age, going and getting typed in a 737 with only a few hundred hours may land you on to one of those TSA lists that the TSA insists they don't keep...

 

[Nalo Boy]

In this day and age, going and getting typed in a 737 with only a few hundred hours may land you on to one of those TSA lists that the TSA insists they don't keep...

So a 737 type will get you a thrill going through security?

 

[No Delay]

You should encourage him to get the rating. I'm sure daddy will be paying for it. Hell, if my parents would pay for it I would get checked out in the space shuttle.

Besides, if daddy is working X airlines and still doesn't know any better...wasting a few thousand dollars on a type might teach both of them a lesson.

 

[minitour]

You should encourage him to get the rating. I'm sure daddy will be paying for it. Hell, if my parents would pay for it I would get checked out in the space shuttle...

the problem is from talk around school no one can quite figure out how the kid finds his way out of a paper bag, let a lone the 73..

...if my parents offered to pay for a type at this point, I think I'd rather have them put the 6k into twin time for me...

-mini

 

[SWA GUY]

Mintour,

Why are you so worried about whether this guy goes and earns a 737 type?

BTW, no one " gets" a type, they "earn" it nobody is going to "give" him a type.

Two more points: 1. There is no requirement for this guy to keep current a type. And if he ever does land a job where he has to fly a 737, he's going to have to sit through ground school and the sim again, not for the type but because the Fed's require it for any 121 carrier or private company flying a 737. 2. It will help him to understand the more complex systems of a turboprop or any jet. They are all about the same when it comes to systems. That may give him a leg up when it comes to his first job flying an airliner.

You do make a good point about spending the money on multi time rather than a 737 type at this point in his flying. But, he'll figure it out.

 

[Dangerkitty]

Just because he goes to get his B-737 Type doesn't mean he is going to walk out with one. When I went to Higher Power we had a CRJ Captain that left because he couldn't hack it.

I was also told of a person who came in with very very low time. After about 3 sims they told this individual that it would be in their best interests to not even try for the checkride. They left with a refund.

If this person goes to places like HPA the better be a wonder pilot or they will probably be setting themselves up for dissapointment.

 

[minitour]

Mintour,

Why are you so worried about whether this guy goes and earns a 737 type?

I'm not...couldn't care less if he goes for it. My "bitch" was more about the attitude he takes towards the instructors because "my daddy says this is wrong". I guess it came off wrong...my bad.

BTW, no one " gets" a type, they "earn" it nobody is going to "give" him a type.

Good point. You kind of took it out of context but a vaild point anyway.

Two more points: 1. There is no requirement for this guy to keep current a type. And if he ever does land a job where he has to fly a 737, he's going to have to sit through ground school and the sim again, not for the type but because the Fed's require it for any 121 carrier or private company flying a 737.

By "current" we (instructors and I) were referring to 61.57. Other than that it just seemed to us like a waste to spend all that cash on a type rating (if you can earn it) then have to sit through the training again (as you pointed out) before you could even think about flying it.

2. It will help him to understand the more complex systems of a turboprop or any jet. They are all about the same when it comes to systems. That may give him a leg up when it comes to his first job flying an airliner.

I think this is kind of the point he keeps hanging on to. He is hell-bent on the fact that the 73 type alone will land him a job...not necessarily the systems or the knowledge he would gain from it, but the rating itself.

You do make a good point about spending the money on multi time rather than a 737 type at this point in his flying. But, he'll figure it out.

I keep trying to show him (mathematically) how much more time he'll get flying a twin for 5 or 6k...but like I said before..."daddy says thats wrong" so of course it is.

My frustration comes from the lack of respect towards any of the instructors, lack of any work ethic (the kid never shows up to ground school, never has flight plans made, seems like he's always "borrowing" mine before a cross country) and the way he just won't listen to people that are trying to help (which is all anyone is trying to do).

Even the chief of operations has said (in a ground school) that the type rating won't do you much good with no time in type...his response? "My daddy says...".

-mini

 

[Dangerkitty]

This guy you are refering to is a freaking moron. I have got over 7000 hours total time, over 1100 turbine PIC. I have flown for 2 Part 121 airlines (one being an international major) I am now flying a Lear for a Part 135 Charter Company. I have four type ratings including a B-737 Type Rating.

The only reason I got the B-737 type was to go to SWA. Unfortunantely I have yet to hear anything. If I am having trouble getting on with SWA with my time and a B-737 type I am sure your friend wont get much further either.

Let him get the type. As a wise man once said, "A fool and his (or daddy's) money are soon departed.