Multiple Choice

[Capt.Underpants]

What type of pilot are you?

• A. I will do anything to save my job, even if it means harming the future negotiating strength of the profession.
• B. I will do anything to help the profession, even if it means the sacrifice of my current job.
• C. Whatever dude.

A profession is an occupation that requires extensive training and the study and mastery of specialized knowledge, and usually has a professional association, ethical code and process of certification or licensing.

A job is your principal acitivity in life that you do to earn money.

 

[Lear70]

B.

Which I've been told by most of my ALPA reps (previous airline) was WAY too idealistic and would never work in today's society.


Why do you ask?

 

[AlbieF15]

D. I will do everything I can to have a backup plan.

 

[pilotyip]

Pilots fit the definition professional for sure, and by dept of labour definitons as a skilled worker. Skilled worker do not require extensive formal education and there are not classified as knowledge workers like other professions, such as Doctors, Engineers, etc. BTW to answer the Multi choice question you have to establish what is the situation while making the decision. Am I unemployed and take a low paying job to feed my family, or am I making $250K/yr and have $1M in the bank. The answers will be different.

 

[gkrangers]

Pilots fit the definition professional for sure, and by dept of labour definitons as a skilled worker. Skilled worker do not require extensive formal education and there are not classified as knowledge workers like other professions, such as Doctors, Engineers, etc. BTW to answer the Multi choice question you have to establish what is the situation while making the decision. Am I unemployed and take a low paying job to feed my family, or am I making $250K/yr and have $1M in the bank. The answers will be different.

What the hell does your education spiel have to do with this thread?

 

[Phaedrus]

Am I unemployed and take a low paying job to feed my family, or am I making $250K/yr and have $1M in the bank. The answers will be different

ethical relativism...

 

[Amish RakeFight]

What type of pilot are you?

• C. Whatever dude.

 

[pilotyip]

You don't need formal education to be a professional that is all I was saying. Fits into the thread. BTW the college degree will become less and less relevant as the worldwide pilot shortage continues to grow.

 

[Occam's Razor]

The choices are stupid.

"A" and "B" are absolutes that are offered as viable options even though it's obvious they were written to make a statement, and not gage ideology.

"I will do anything..." is an invitation to paradox-ville. "Anything", you say? Hmmm. I can think of a few things that you wouldn't do. The premise is that the end justifies the means and that extremism is the path to enlightenment. Slip another noun or two in there and you've got an al qaeda recruiting message.

Wouldja break the law to help the profession?
Wouldja pimp your wife to raise money to pay lobbyists against Age 60? (If you would, and your wife is hot...call me...I just got a big Claim Sale check!)

"help the profession" is another subjective trap. Is changing Age 60 helping or not helping the profession? Discuss...

The question looks like one of those lame notes 11-girls pass around in History class: Do you like Jimmy? Yes No <--circle one!

 

[AlbieF15]

Jimmy's a fag, you may NOT bang my wife, but what else can I help you do to kybosh age 60?

 

[Occam's Razor]

Jimmy's a fag, you may NOT bang my wife, but what else can I help you do to kybosh age 60?

Ha!

Jimmy grew up and married Phyllis Veenstra. He sells tires and she has cankles.

Tell your wife I get a 15% discount at Nordstroms and we'll see what SHE says! (And I live 3 blocks from the largest mall in the US!)

Write your congressman and senators! Make it a real letter, on real paper, and follow it up with a call to their LD. My congressman's LD was very helpful and indicates there's nothing on their radar addressing the stuff the FAA sez they need.

 

[Lear70]

Jimmy's a fag, you may NOT bang my wife, but what else can I help you do to kybosh age 60?

ROFLMAO!!!

:beer:

Incidentally, again, Rez comes out with the ALPA party line.

Like I said, ALPA reps always tell me this ideology is too severe in our current socioeconomic climate.

I call bullsh*t.

Rez, you knew what he meant and how he intended it, no illegal action, simply defending the profession in the way ALPA simply isn't interested in doing anymore.

Now, instead of equivocating like a career politician, how about you answer the question, assuming no illegal action taken?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Lear,

You're hallucinating, brother. Rez ain't on this thread. The topic is "Do you still beat your wife, wussy?" (As written in the multiple choice question above)

 

[Lear70]

Lear,

You're hallucinating, brother. Rez ain't on this thread. The topic is "Do you still beat your wife, wussy?" (As written in the multiple choice question above)

Nah, wasn't hallucinating.

Was drunk. Good overnight.

I don't beat the wife, but the cat needs a good kick every once in a while.

And yeah, I meant you, and you still avoided the question.

 

[Occam's Razor]

And yeah, I meant you, and you still avoided the question.

Huh?

What question?

 

[Schwanker]

If you would, and your wife is hot...call me...I just got a big Claim Sale check!

Are you trying to say you can finally afford a refill on you Viagra prescription? If so, can I have some?

 

[Occam's Razor]

Are you trying to say you can finally afford a refill on you Viagra prescription? If so, can I have some?

Sadly, Viagra only makes me taller.

So I stick with purely organic means to get wood:

• Finding an un-read newspaper.
• Having Training displace me from a trip.
• F/A's calling up front to say, "There's lots of First Class meals left...want three?"
• Layover hotels with free breakfast buffets.
• BayWatch re-runs on my HDTV.
• Sharpshooting my November schedule.
• My birthday, when my wife says, "Ok, ok...since it's your birthday, I guess I have to.."

 

[Scrapdog]

A profession is an occupation that requires extensive training and the study and mastery of specialized knowledge, and usually has a professional association, ethical code and process of certification or licensing.

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Well, if that's the definition - you surely can't be describing an airline pilot! LOL

And BTW - Yip, as usual you're a complete tool. Save your "you only need to be a high school clown to fly for an airline" mantra for another time. There is a reason FDX, CAL, SWA, UPS, (name the major du jour), etc...either require or "highly prefer" a college degree. I won't bore everyone else with continuing any further...you get my drift.

 

[pilotyip]

Thanks srappy views from the other side are always welcome

 

[PurpleInMEM]

What type of pilot are you?

• A. I will do anything to save my job, even if it means harming the future negotiating strength of the profession.
• B. I will do anything to help the profession, even if it means the sacrifice of my current job.
• C. Whatever dude.

A profession is an occupation that requires extensive training and the study and mastery of specialized knowledge, and usually has a professional association, ethical code and process of certification or licensing.

A job is your principal acitivity in life that you do to earn money.

C.....

 

[pilotyip]

BTW the scrappy, 7% of the pilots hired at SWA did not have 4 yr degrees. And why do most pilot getting hired have college degrees? The answer is most simple, most pilots applying have college degrees. That should even make sense to a clown.

 

[Lear70]

That's interesting circular logic...

I fly airplane because I have a pilots license.

I have a pilots license because I fly airplanes.

See, I can do that, too...

 

[pilotyip]

lear, but do you like it?

 

[Oh-ryan]

Four.

 

[Lear70]

lear, but do you like it?

It beats digging ditches... most days.

Seriously, I can't think of another job that has this many days off and still be able to consider myself "full-time".

The money is another issue (as in: it sucks).

 

[pilotyip]

lear, then I take it you are flying because you like, and are not into it for the money?

 

[Lear70]

When I got into it, I was (back when the average Legacy CA - including my dad - was pulling down $200k a year plus, and that was BEFORE the big gains by UAL and DAL).

Now I'm simply in too far to go do something else unless I have to.

It's either fight the companies into either paying us a decent wage, or force them out of business if they can't afford to pay a decent wage.

Either way, I either have a job that pays a good wage, or I'm forced to do something else. If enough people felt this way, it would put a LOT more pressure on airlines to compensate their employees reasonably.