Multiengine Seaplane Training?

[Chairman]

Is there really any advantage having a MES ATP vs Comm MES if you don't have much float time?

 

[A Squared]

Is there really any advantage having a MES ATP vs Comm MES if you don't have much float time?

Well, you couldn't be a 121 captain with a CPL (Think CHalks) I'm not too swift on 135 regs, but I think you'd need the ATP to be PIC on a twin otter also, at least pax carrying. If you're gonna do the checkride, might as well do the ATP ride.

 

[A Squared]

Anyone know of anyplace that will do an ATP MEL and MES combined rating?

Did you happen to read the thread?

 

[LivestockTony]

Chalks is defunct, certificate was revoked in 2007. I think Seaborne is the last US 121 MES operator, but I sure could be wrong. PennAir's Gooses (geese?) are on the 135 cert.

Borek wants an ICAO ATP with a float rating for their maldive DHC-6 captains.

If for some reason it was cheaper to take a C-MES only*, and you were hired as a street captain to be a 121 pic, couldn't you do the atp ride concurrent with the .424 ride? Or is that only allowed when a type is being added at the same time? Just curious..

-TF

*- If nothing else, when I got my C-MES I was paying $350/hr (iirc) for the airplane and the comm. upgrade checkride is shorter than the atp since there's no approaches... but at the time I didn't have the hours for an atp anyways.

 

[A Squared]

Chalks is defunct, certificate was revoked in 2007.

Yeah, I mentioned that more as a "for example"

If for some reason it was cheaper to take a C-MES only*, and you were hired as a street captain to be a 121 pic, couldn't you do the atp ride concurrent with the .424 ride? Or is that only allowed when a type is being added at the same time?

FWIW, we're talking fairly unlikely scenarios, including my previous post. If, like Chairman said, you have little float time, you're probably a long way from a PIC job in any seaplane operation that would otherwise require an ATP. That said, you *could* get an ATP on a captain's ride, but the person administering the ride would have to be an examiner with the requisite authorizations.


How's the C-46 treating you? More fun that the middle seat of a 6?

 

[ROSWELL41]

Did you happen to read the thread?

Yes, I did read the thread. It's almost three years old. I am looking for a place where I can do both the ATP MEL and MES in an amphib in order to save money rather than doing them separately. I already have the ATP SEL. Do you know of any place? All of the places with Widgeons won't do the ATP MEL since the right seat doesn't have brakes.

 

[A Squared]

Yes, I did read the thread. It's almost three years old.

I see. And when you contacted the place I posted, did they say "we are no longer doing combined MEL and MES ATP checkrides?"

 

[ROSWELL41]

I see. And when you contacted the place I posted, did they say "we are no longer doing combined MEL and MES ATP checkrides?"

No, I left a voicemail because nobody answered. I hope they still provide this training because it seems to be a small niche. Did you do the combined checkride? What are your impressions of the aircraft? Would you recommend doing it this way?