Mountain Air Cargo Training Contracts

[blingair]

To any Mountain Air Cargo pilots: Do you folks have to sign initial, recurrent or upgrade contracts and if so what are the conditions, ie length, cost and enforcement?
Also, how would you feel about participating in a shared feeder pilot group/website with Empire pilots?

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

To any Mountain Air Cargo pilots: Do you folks have to sign initial, recurrent or upgrade contracts and if so what are the conditions, ie length, cost and enforcement?
Also, how would you feel about participating in a shared feeder pilot group/website with Empire pilots?

Initial, 1 year. Different seat (upgrade) 1 year more.
I forget the price, but 12 months passes quickly.

I'd gladly share a site.

CE

 

[refplusnone]

How would you feel about participating in a shared feeder pilot group/website with Empire pilots?

Bumpity bump

 

[Tref]

To any Mountain Air Cargo pilots: Do you folks have to sign initial, recurrent or upgrade contracts and if so what are the conditions, ie length, cost and enforcement?
Also, how would you feel about participating in a shared feeder pilot group/website with Empire pilots?

Don't know if it's changed, but it used to be 2 years/$18,000 for a F27 street Captain, or 1 year/$14,000 for an F/O. Of course the Fokkers are all but gone, so it might be different for the ATRs.

As for the upgrade, hadn't heard of anyone having to sign anything but they requested that you stay for at least a year afterwards. Sort of a "gentleman's agreement."

 

[blingair]

At EA you sign for pretty much everything. IMO the contracts are for more than what the training itself costs. I have a friend who left and made payment arrangements with the company. He was three days late with one monthly payment and they sent it to a very nasty collection agency which has been a nightmare for him and his wife.

 

[thunderworm]

the pick of T.K. is too cool. one of "as such " would be a topper.

 

[fr8r]

To any Mountain Air Cargo pilots: Do you folks have to sign initial, recurrent or upgrade contracts and if so what are the conditions, ie length, cost and enforcement?
Also, how would you feel about participating in a shared feeder pilot group/website with Empire pilots?

For the Caravan, it is a 1 year contract of $12,000 prorated after 6 months.

 

[landlover]

For the Caravan, it is a 1 year contract of $12,000 prorated after 6 months.

$12,000 for a caravan? It can't really cost that much to train someone in a 208, can it?

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

With a level "D" simulator and 135 ride it might be.

CE

 

[fr8r]

$12,000 for a caravan? It can't really cost that much to train someone in a 208, can it?

They also pay you $32k first year, $34.5 second & so on. During training, you stay in a decent hotel and are fed the whole time. I challenge anyone to find a commuter airline that can boast about $32k first year pay. It is also caravan pay mind you. "Other" Caravan operators only pay like $22k and the pilots have to load their on airplanes! I don't see MAC as a career airline as I once did, but they are a good company to work for.

 

[landlover]

They also pay you $32k first year, $34.5 second & so on. During training, you stay in a decent hotel and are fed the whole time. I challenge anyone to find a commuter airline that can boast about $32k first year pay. It is also caravan pay mind you. "Other" Caravan operators only pay like $22k and the pilots have to load their on airplanes! I don't see MAC as a career airline as I once did, but they are a good company to work for.

My commment was not to imply anything about MAC. I have heard only great things about them. I was just kind of surprised at that number, but it must be true. Yeah loading an airplane sucks donkey kong rooster, especially if its august and then you have to go fly it covered in sweat.

 

[Nolife]

Loading your own a/c sucks. I remember 110 degrees BWD, TX, loading my van with 3000 lbs of leaking dusty cement bags getting crap all over my nice pressed shirt and seeing the Baron guy sippin iced tea while the FDX rampers loaded his van. Plus at MRA I was making 22.5k a yr. :bawling:

MAC is a good company to work for.

 

[fr8r]

My commment was not to imply anything about MAC. I have heard only great things about them. I was just kind of surprised at that number, but it must be true. Yeah loading an airplane sucks donkey kong rooster, especially if its august and then you have to go fly it covered in sweat.

Sorry Landlover. It wasn't my intention to sound like I was biting back. I was just commenting on how you can fly a Caravan for more money than most commuters. It's puzzling. On the other hand, MAC's captain pay for an ATR is way behind industry standard.

 

[dillfer]

I've flown caravans for five different companies, I know pretty sad, and I've been paid anywhere between $80/day to $300/day. And I was making the $300/day 6 years ago, so I would say 32,000/year is kinda midrange at best for today's standards.