Most Useful Type Rating

[infiniti757]

One of my best friends is thinking about getting a type rating when she gets her ATP to improve her credibility when she goes for interviews. She asked what I thought the best for her to get would be. I told her a 737 type like mine (not that I used it much) would be most useful since she doesn't know if she wants to go airline, corporate, cargo or go overseas. Many airlines and some corporate and fractional operators use the 737.

Shes got 2000 hours about 500 multi, 300 turbine, no previous jet experience. She doesn't really have any desire to work for a commuter and be under house arrest (read that as reserve) for a year or two at welfare wages.

Any input into this would be great. I never gave it much thought since I kind of fell into the jobs I've had.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Make sure she checks the requirements to do a type all in the sim so she doesn't have an IOE limitation. Unless of course she is able to do part of the checkride in an actual airplane.

 

[LAMESAUCE]

the best type rating is the one the company pays for.

 

[paid4training]

Is she hot cause I could get her a "stripper" type rating!!! lol JOKE!!!!

I have always heard that a citation rating is a good one to start with...

 

[Thedude]

A type rating isnt any good if you dont have time in type

 

[Lead Sled]

The most useful type rating? It's the one that goes with the airplane that you're paid to fly. No previous jet experience? I recommend that she go for something realistic - a Citation type.

 

[simav8r]

FYI...in the corporate world if an applicant shows up with a 737 type rating the interviewer will typically ask one of two questions:

"When is your interview with SWA?" or
"Why didn't SWA hire you?"

Either way an immediate stigma is placed on the person who needs the job.

 

[NW_Pilot]

The most useful type rating? It's the one that goes with the airplane that you're paid to fly. No previous jet experience? I recommend that she go for something realistic - a Citation type.

Unless one has a fat wallet, or has some awesome connections how dose one gain the experience that’s the question????



That is, If no one will hire you to get the experience becuse you have none! how dose one gain the experience if one cannot afford to buy the experience?

 

[Say Again Over]

I say either a 737 (SWA interview), or Gulftstream, lots of contract work available.

 

[infiniti757]

Which type though?

Flying is a second career for her and she's willing and able to pay for a type (read that as retired in her late 20s on internet stock options). Before you guys get on me about it shes not going to accept anything less than industry standard for a job just to get ahead.

We've talked and she knows that she needs time in type to realistically get a job as PIC. But she thinks it will look good on a resume. Ive told her its not the most efficient way to spend her money, but I don't think theres anything wrong with it since shes willing to and able to spend the money and is aware of how useful (or useless depending on POV) it will be.

To my way of thinking a type rating shows that you have some proficiency and are able to comprehend a complex airplane even with low total time (shes gonna go to FlightSafety or Simuflite instead of one of these little sim places). I talked her out of one of those pay for training programs since you spend all that money and don't get anything permanent out of it.

So some of you guys are saying Citation which kind? I don't think the 750 type would be useful since there are so few of them compared to some other types. If not a Citation any other suggestions. Keep em coming guys I'm finding this kind of useful.

(BTW I ended up with a 73 type in kind of an odd way and never really had any desire to work for Southwest. But every interview I've been on has asked about it.)

 

[rickair7777]

A biz-jet type would be the way to go, citation probably.

The 737 WILL raise big flags at most airline interviews..."So, why should we hire you if southwest didn't"?

 

[340drvr]

Common concensus (previously covered on this forum) usually comes up with either CE500 or LR-JET, those two seem to encompass the most models, and the existing fleets are large in number.

 

[lawfly]

I vote for CE-500. Worked for me, but took me a while to find a position in my locale--didn't want to move. I had non-aviation self-employment available in the meantime. But once I found first jet job, I started logging jet time and it quickly led to a position which I regard as desirable. I don't think I would have gotten that pivotal first jet job without the type. Well worth the $ in my case. And I learned from the type rating course, as well. Then learned more on the job. In my case, I was coming off of an absence from professional aviation (got recurrent well before the type rating course), had the funding at that particular time, and wasn't particularly interested in the regionals.

 

[dhc8fo]

The CE500 type encompasses the Citation I, Citation II, Citation Bravo, Citation V, Citation Ultra, Citation Encore, and Citation S/II (thats the 500, 501, 550, 551, and 560).

 

[Midnight Flyer]

One of my best friends is thinking about getting a type rating when she gets her ATP to improve her credibility when she goes for interviews.

OOh, to be a woman in this male dominated industry.
Now she's already got the tools to stand out above the rest, it's up to her now.

True story: I have a friend who was hired at my airline, personally by the DO, because she was blonde and has big b00bies. She didn't even get a "real" interview like the rest of the people hired did. Eventually it caught up to her when recurrent came around, as she couldn't fly an ILS approach.

 

[jimpilot]

Corporate Pilot

One of my best friends is thinking about getting a type rating when she gets her ATP to improve her credibility when she goes for interviews. She asked what I thought the best for her to get would be. I told her a 737 type like mine (not that I used it much) would be most useful since she doesn't know if she wants to go airline, corporate, cargo or go overseas. Many airlines and some corporate and fractional operators use the 737.

Shes got 2000 hours about 500 multi, 300 turbine, no previous jet experience. She doesn't really have any desire to work for a commuter and be under house arrest (read that as reserve) for a year or two at welfare wages.

Any input into this would be great. I never gave it much thought since I kind of fell into the jobs I've had.

The advice I give folks in her position all the time is to knock on a few doors at the local airport. Try and find someone who will use her as a rent a pilot if she gets the type. Then get that type rating, and hopefully some flying time with the flight department. She will then be very employable in corporate aviation. Her type rating shows her ability and the time will show experience. She may even end up with a job in another type that the hiring company is glad to pay for, knowing she has the ability and experience.

My .02 cents

 

[Black Hawk]

The Lear or 737 would be a real handful as a first type with little jet experience. C-500 sounds right to me. Lots of companies besides Southwest fly 737's. Since Southwest requires 1000 turbine PIC too would a 737 really be a hinderance for a regional gig?

 

[SWA GUY]

WN requires 1300 PIC turbine now.