More UAL layoffs

[skyking]

what is the total furlough count now at United?

 

[satpak77]

it is shocking to me (maybe it shouldn't be...) that a 2000 hire (nine years ago) is on furlough

I mean, we are talking almost ten years of service and still get furloughed.....

jeez

 

[UALjan15]

it is shocking to me (maybe it shouldn't be...) that a 2000 hire (nine years ago) is on furlough

I mean, we are talking almost ten years of service and still get furloughed.....

jeez

Well, minus the 3 year furlough from 03-06. A 2000 hire got maybe 10% up the seniority list before '03 furlough, which didn't turn out to be enough. During the "recovery" of '06-07, there we a few new hires, but I think there were more late '00 and '01 hires that didn't return, so a 2000 hire still didn't have much more than 10% below him in 2008...still not enough. As they say, timing is everything.

As bad as this seems, AAA guys hired in the late '80s got their second furloughs after 14 or 15 years longevity. They may see a third at the 20 year point if the company can't right itself.

 

[Yuppyguppy]

it is shocking to me (maybe it shouldn't be...) that a 2000 hire (nine years ago) is on furlough

I mean, we are talking almost ten years of service and still get furloughed.....

jeez

F Uck Em

 

[skyking]

Anybody know the furlough number totals and how far back the date of hire goes to the most junior pilot on property?

 

[SoCentralRain]

Anybody know the furlough number totals and how far back the date of hire goes to the most junior pilot on property?

If/when the company gets all the 950 active pilots (out of 1450 pilots on leave, etc.), it will probably work out to a mid-1999 hire.

It sucks so so bad.

 

[whatitdoing?]

For christ's sake!!! I would think a 1999 hire would pretty much be safe. What the hell has happened to our careers? Anyhow, probably going to be on the street this spring at CAL......what fun.

 

[pianoman]

For christ's sake!!! I would think a 1999 hire would pretty much be safe. What the hell has happened to our careers? Anyhow, probably going to be on the street this spring at CAL......what fun.

Yikes! You know something you want to share...? When were you hired at CAL?

 

[Turtle21]

You mean it wasn't voted on by the pilot group? Don't you have member ratification?

Membership ratification? Is that in the ALPA glossary?

 

[Turtle21]

it is shocking to me (maybe it shouldn't be...) that a 2000 hire (nine years ago) is on furlough

I mean, we are talking almost ten years of service and still get furloughed.....

jeez

Add the age 65 to the mix and we are all screwed for another five years of furlough.

 

[Razorback Flyer]

Add the age 65 to the mix and we are all screwed for another five years of furlough.

Four years. The rule was passed a year ago. It ain't much, but you gotta look for the bright spots wheres yous can find 'em!

 

[Flyarcticcat]

What is the total number United laid off so far? When was the last group let go and are they done Furloughing?

 

[Yuppyguppy]

Here is some salt...go ahead and keep rubbing it in the wound

 

[Colonel Savage]

Here is some salt...go ahead and keep rubbing it in the wound

Some people just take comfort in other people's misery, Yup.

 

[BeachBummer]

What is the total number United laid off so far? When was the last group let go and are they done Furloughing?

uke:WAY TO DIG UP A 6mo. OLD THREAD!

 

[Skippy]

who knows if the soon to voted on TA will increase furloughs- noone can give a definite answer.

Current
Effective Month
# of Pilots Furloughed ​

Sep-2008

116​

Oct-2008

60​

Nov-2008

46​

Dec-2008

0​

Jan-2009

384​

Feb-2009

0​

Mar-2009

0​

Apr-2009

148​

May-2009

120​

Total ​

874


Past
Effective Month
# of Pilots Furloughed ​

Sept-2001 ​

0 ​

Oct-2001

591 ​

Nov-2001

0 ​

Dec-2001

0 ​

Jan-2002

0 ​

Feb-2002

0 ​

Mar-2002

253 ​

Apr-2002

0 ​

May-2002

0 ​

Jun-2002

0 ​

Jul-2002

0 ​

Aug-2002

0 ​

Sep-2002

0 ​

Oct-2002

0 ​

Nov-2002

0 ​

Dec-2002

0 ​

Jan-2003

220 ​

Feb-2003

0 ​

Mar-2003

242 ​

Apr-2003

66 ​

May-2003

30 ​

Jun-2003

74 ​

Jul-2003

79 ​

Aug-2003

88 ​

Sep-2003

113 ​

Oct-2003

107 ​

Nov-2003

104 ​

Dec-2003

105 ​

Jan-2004

100 ​

Total

2172 ​

 

[Yuppyguppy]

Voted No...either way there will soon be at least 6400+ pilots on the street from UAL

 

[Colonel Savage]

Voted No...either way there will soon be at least 6400+ pilots on the street from UAL

Is there a TA at UAL?

 

[Yuppyguppy]

yes there is a TA...I voted HELL NO

 

[ualdriver]

Is there a TA at UAL?

It's not a TA for Section 6 negotiations. It's a side letter involving some minor, "no cost" stuff.