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Detroitpilot22

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The TA has not even been approved yet!
This is rediculous.


Northwest Pushes To Unveil Subsidiary 'Compass' In June
By Lori Ranson/Aviation Daily
03/29/2006 08:50:10 AM

Northwest is pressing for a June launch of its new subsidiary, Compass, and plans to hand either Bombardier or Embraer a new aircraft order to supply 76-seat planes for the airline in April.

The carrier outlined the plans for Compass, formerly dubbed Newco, in a filing with the U.S. Transportation Dept. after buying FLYi's operating certificate for $2 million.

Northwest is asking authorities for swift approval of the transfer of the certificate from FLYi subsidiary Independence Air to Compass to start flights in June from a base at Washington Dulles Airport with a single CRJ-200 that might "be sourced from" aircraft formerly flown by Independence.

Compass is also employing Independence's directors of maintenance, safety, operations and its chief pilot and chief inspector, noting that local FAA personnel have worked closely with those individuals. Taking that into account, Northwest said, "It is believed that the issuance to Compass of operating authority equivalent to that held by Independence Air will be obtained in a minimum amount of time."

Northwest wants to launch daily nonstop flights on Compass in June from Dulles to Minneapolis/St. Paul. The airline is targeting placing 76-seat planes into service during the first full year of operations, "under a tentative growth plan forecasting operation of at least 36 such aircraft in domestic markets in five years." The carrier noted those planes are replacing Avro RJs flown by partner Mesaba.

If Compass secures all the pertinent regulatory approvals, the carrier wants to take delivery of larger planes, starting in March 2007. "These aircraft will be the Bombardier CRJ-900 and/or the Embraer 175," Northwest said. "Final selection is expected to be made in April 2006." Compass would fly the -900s with 12 first-class seats and 64 in coach, while the Embraer 175s would be configured for 11 first-class seats and 64 in coach class.

Northwest is drawing from its own management to run Compass. Former US Airways executive and current Northwest CFO Neal Cohen is Compass's CEO. Dan McDonald, current VP-finance and fleet planning at Northwest is Compass's senior VP-business development. The Compass team is rounded out with VP and Secretary Mike Miller, who currently is Northwest's VP-law and secretary.

Compass is receiving $4 million in capital from Northwest. Projected operating expenses at startup are about $1.1 million, growing to about $14 million during the first year of operations.

Previously, Northwest said furloughed mainline pilots would have first rights to jobs at the subsidiary on a separate seniority list
 
"The TA has not even been approved yet!
This is rediculous."


Other than the fact that NWA pilots voted in November, 2004 to allow a 3rd Airlink in the system?

The T/A allows the size of the aircraft mentioned. The agreement we ratified 17-months ago allows the operation...it would just be restricted to 55-seats.

Keep it straight. This stuff is important.
 
I havent been following this too deeply, so just so im clear, Is it Mainline Northwest pilots who are going to be flying this new airline?
 
1)What is the interest in creating a new airline such as this one?
I understood that republic, freedom,*************************s were created to go around a 70 seats and above aircraft restriction from their major partner. but I assume Northwest wouldn't do that to itself.
2)or is it because they don't have to pay any senior pilots since they would have no one with more than a year seniority?
3)also the first post says that the airline would be flying 76 seats aircraft but occam's razor writes that compass would be resrited to 55 seat aircraft. what is the airline gonna fly.
4)would they re hire the avro guys from mesaba in priority? that would be nice.
 
Why have only 2 regional affiliates to whipsaw against one another when you could have 3? The more regionals competing in the already over-flowing RJ marketplace, the better. Smash those hourly wages and work rules into oblivion, hooray! ALPA needs to get a freaking grip on this.
 
saviboy said:
1)What is the interest in creating a new airline such as this one?
I understood that republic, freedom,*************************s were created to go around a 70 seats and above aircraft restriction from their major partner. but I assume Northwest wouldn't do that to itself.
2)or is it because they don't have to pay any senior pilots since they would have no one with more than a year seniority?
3)also the first post says that the airline would be flying 76 seats aircraft but occam's razor writes that compass would be resrited to 55 seat aircraft. what is the airline gonna fly.
4)would they re hire the avro guys from mesaba in priority? that would be nice.

1) To get/keep mainline furloughs off the street.

2) Mainline furloughs will keep their seniority # and flow back up to mainline in seniority order.

3) Compass will fly 76 seat ac unless the TA doesn't pass (but it is expected to)

4) All of the Captain slots and a some of the FO slots will be furloughed mainline (depending on how many furloughs go to compass) it is expected that most will given they keep their mainline seniority and are guaranteed to flow back up to mainline. I doubt any XJ or 9E pilots will be given a priority at Compass (NW has already tenaciously demonstrated that they are unwilling to "rob Peter to pay Paul").

The kicker with the last point is the street guys at Compass will supposedly get a mainline seniority number and flow up to mainline as needed when all the mainline furloughs have been recalled (from what I've been told).
 
okcplt said:
The kicker with the last point is the street guys at Compass will supposedly get a mainline seniority number and flow up to mainline as needed when all the mainline furloughs have been recalled (from what I've been told).

Somewhat correct, only some of the pilots coming out of compass will get a shot at mainline. You will still have to go through the interview process, but you are going to get an interview. The pilots want to vote down the TA to get better value for compass airlines, they do not want to stop it from happening. No matter what happens, compass is a reality. They most likely will give XJ preferential hiring since they will need pilots and that's a better pilot base than the street.
 

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