Min Quals for 135 King Air 200 PIC/SIC?

[msw]

Climbto350.com has got an ad for an east coast 135 operator looking for a Part 135 King Air B200 SIC. They want 2000TT, 1000 multi, 500 turbo-prop, and 100 make and model.

I think that sounds like pretty stiff requirements for a BE-20 SIC. Any pilot worth his wings should have no problem being a BE-20 PIC with those times. Or is this just a sign of the times? I can't imagine an insurance company would require that for a SIC; or would they? (Maybe I am just out of touch!)

What do you guys think?

 

[Flying Illini]

Those sound more like BE20 PIC times.

 

[Kingairrick]

They might be looking to hire someone who will upgrade quickly. Or they might be trying to become Wyvern certified. You can look up Wyvern on google to see who they are. Basically a ARG/US type seal of approval deal. I think Netjets only uses charter operators who are Wyvern approved as vendors. It sucks. Yet another set of flight time minmums for us to not meet. thiers are ridiculous. For a BE-90 PIC: 4000TT,2500Multi, 1500PIC Turbine. Its crazy, I don't meet those, and I will probably in the left seat of a jet inside of 6 months.

Just my .02

 

[Timebuilder]

A sign of the times? Yes.

My company was certified as described above. There are a great many factors, not all are pilot times, since I was able to work there with my times. I think it was in large part the experience of the owners, one of whom was a check airman.

I know of a Conquest operator who has some very high mins, imposed by his insurance company. Creative lawyers have driven up the cost of insurance, and the only standard that insurance companies have to judge the worth of a pilot, right or wrong, is the "times" he has.

The good thing about high mins is that the higher they go, the fewer pilots meet those mins. From that, there are the few pilots who are interested in the job. That tends to raise pay.

Easy mins would almost guarantee that any KA SIC would be paid bargain basement rates.

If, that is, it did not become a PFT position.

 

[FalconPilot69]

Insurance

Sadly, those times are probably accurate. The company I fly for required 2000 TT with 500 multi and 100 type to be an SIC. Those times are insurance mandated. Quite a joke really, since those times also qualify most for PIC.

 

[SDCFI]

100 in type for an SIC? Catch-22 for most people. How do you get 100 hours in type if you need that upfront? Sucks if you have x amount of turbine PIC in a 99 but can't even get a right seat King Air job because you have no time in type.

 

[FalconPilot69]

I could not agree more. Funny though, things can always be waived.