Military Leave and CASS

[NavinRJohnson]

I've been on Mil Leave for just over a month now, and looks like I dropped from CASS.

Does this happen for all pilots on mil leave, or just CAL?

Missed a flight because of it and couldn't by a Zed fare in time. Steaming mad right now...

The Navin

 

[LittleDeuce]

Jump Seat

I've been on Mil Leave for just over a month now, and looks like I dropped from CASS.

Does this happen for all pilots on mil leave, or just CAL?

Missed a flight because of it and couldn't by a Zed fare in time. Steaming mad right now...

The Navin

When you are not an active pilot you are not eligable for the jump seat.

 

[clippyrip]

I've been on Mil Leave for just over a month now, and looks like I dropped from CASS.

Does this happen for all pilots on mil leave, or just CAL?

Missed a flight because of it and couldn't by a Zed fare in time. Steaming mad right now...

The Navin

No worky no jumpseaty

 

[Raoul Duke]

you cannot be in Cass if you are not active. You can be steaming mad but direct it to the TSA

 

[fwrtg]

My first post! I've been reading FI daily for quite some time, but never took the time/interest in posting.
But this one caught my eye -- I work for U.S. Air (west) -- went out on MIL leave 1 Oct 08-- AND remained in CASS. I think it is company specific, but at U.S. Airways, when a pilot goes out on mil leave, they keep their I.D. and remain in CASS. I worked at CENTCOM in Tampa w/ tons of mil guys/gals taking leave from airlines. Some, not all, were in CASS. Had 2 bosses, both O6/colonels -- one from Jet Blue -- no CASS; one from U.S. Air (west) -- CASS approved. Big help. Check w/ your C.P. office or union J/S coordinator. Hope this helps.

 

[MILPILOT17]

My first post! I've been reading FI daily for quite some time, but never took the time/interest in posting.
But this one caught my eye -- I work for U.S. Air (west) -- went out on MIL leave 1 Oct 08-- AND remained in CASS. I think it is company specific, but at U.S. Airways, when a pilot goes out on mil leave, they keep their I.D. and remain in CASS. I worked at CENTCOM in Tampa w/ tons of mil guys/gals taking leave from airlines. Some, not all, were in CASS. Had 2 bosses, both O6/colonels -- one from Jet Blue -- no CASS; one from U.S. Air (west) -- CASS approved. Big help. Check w/ your C.P. office or union J/S coordinator. Hope this helps.

100% correct!

 

[MILPILOT17]

you cannot be in Cass if you are not active. You can be steaming mad but direct it to the TSA

100% incorrect!

 

[fwrtg]

My second post!!! Not sure if this will help, or not, but -- In regard to the CASS/JS issue, My Jet Blue/O6 boss at CENTCOM applied for j/s a lot. He had his JB I.D. but no CASS authorization. He was always approved and granted a ride, provided a seat was available in the back of the plane, and he occupied that seat. If all pax seats filled, he could not sit on j/s due to not being in CASS. So bottom line -- you might not need to buy a ZED fare ticket, you may be cleared, with your airline I.D., but just not for the cockpit j/s. Another note -- most airlines "clear" non-revs/ZED fare pax prior to j/s riders. So if one pax seat is available, and the gate agent has one non-rev and one non-CASS J/S rider, the non-rev (even OAL) pax will probably get the seat. Good to have a non-rev/ZED ticket w/ you, but you may not have to use it....
Good luck!

 

[Mike man]

I've been on Mil Leave for just over a month now, and looks like I dropped from CASS.

Does this happen for all pilots on mil leave, or just CAL?

Missed a flight because of it and couldn't by a Zed fare in time. Steaming mad right now...

The Navin

You should have been able to ride in a cabin seat without CASS.

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

Although I never needed to jump seat on another carrier, I was OK do jump on my own during military leave....

 

[MarineGrunt]

I've been on mil leave for almost a year, still in CASS....

 

[NavinRJohnson]

Sorry, for some reason I wasn't subscribed to the thread, even though I created it. Didn't even know people had posted. Hmmm.

Anyways. I was trying to go on another carrier as a JS. When that didn't work, I tried to purchase a ZED fare, and was unable also.

Talked to my union later, and it turns out it's CAL's policy to remove us from CASS. Looks like this policy varies from carrier to carrier.

In addition, we cannot pass travel on other carriers (ie no ZED). We can only pass travel on our own airline for up to 24 months.

Good to hear others aren't so restricted. I think it's BS personally that they limit it at all, but it is what it is.

Thanks for all the replies...

Navin

 

[millhouse21]

When I worked at Trans States and got mobilized, they took my ID so no CASS, no nonrev and no jumpseating in the back. But, like you said, it is company specific; that's just what this company chose to do.

 

[tmac3333]

Agreed, it's company specific for MIL leave over 30 days. CAL takes us off the active listing, which is what kicks us out of CASS. So, you can pass ride on CAL but not on any OAL or in the jumpseat, even with airline ID. I know other reservists from different companies that I work with that can do it with their airlines but I think the majority is no jumpseat on MIL leave.