Military Flight Time

[bafanguy]

[I'll put my question here although I'm afraid no one will see it ]

Pondering the 750 hour total time requirement for mil pilots for the r-ATP and wondering how many mil pilots get out after one tour with less than 1,000-ish hours.

They aren't the majority, or anywhere near it, are they ?

I remember many years ago being a DC9 captain and flying with a new guy now and then who had 1,000, 1,200 hours total time (usually fighter guys) but they were nowhere near the common demographic.

And where did 750 hours come from ?

 

[pilotyip]

We hired a C-17 driver at 756 hours. The 750 hours came from congress to match the experience of the 1,000 ERAU grads for a restricted ATP. Military flying outside of direct combat operations is very canned you always training, both in sim and the aircraft. Not flying in a conflict, getting 200 hours year about average. At 750 hours pilot might have 4 years of flying heavy turbine equipment. Plus some companies count military time at up to 1.4 equivalent civilian hours for every military hour.

 

[bafanguy]

Yip,


PM comin' atcha...

 

[bafanguy]

This is kinda interesting.

Rhetorical questions: How will companies view drone time in the pilot-hiring process ? How will FAA view it in the ATP, r-ATP flight time calculations ?:

"...beginning this August, the Air Force plans to steer 80 undergraduate pilot training graduates directly into drone squadrons, instead of traditional manned aircraft."

"The last time the Air Force did this was between 2009 and 2011. About 30 percent of the 248 pilots who were given the opportunity to fly manned aircraft at the end of their tours decided to remain drone pilots, Karns said."



http://www.airforcetimes.com/story/...rone-pilots-to-get-135k-re-up-bonus/30184499/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/air-force-will-offer-bonuses-to-lure-drone-pilots-1436922312
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"An internal Air Force study highlighted recently by NBC news notes that of 244 undergraduates allowed to pick any career in the Air Force, one quarter elected to sign on as drone pilots. More to the point, of 487 fighter and bomber pilots assigned to three years drone duty, more than 410 elected to continue their careers as drone pilots when the three years were up."

http://www.avweb.com/news/avtraining/drone_pilot_training_forecast_uas_208586-1.html


http://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...ain-40-more-predator-reaper-pilots-in-415594/

 

[bafanguy]

We hired a C-17 driver at 756 hours.

Yip,

Did this person come to you with a r-ATP in hand or with just the written passed...or did you provide the CTP course to allow him to take the written ?

 

[pilotyip]

Yip,

Did this person come to you with a r-ATP in hand or with just the written passed...or did you provide the CTP course to allow him to take the written ?

He had an ATP written from before 7-31-14, got his ATP with type in the DC-9

 

[bafanguy]

Yip,

Thanks. Glad it worked out for the guy.

 

[bafanguy]

Rhetorical questions: How will companies view drone time in the pilot-hiring process ? How will FAA view it in the ATP, r-ATP flight time calculations ?

SWA's recent ad is the first I've seen addressing UAV time for hiring purposes. Still don't know about the FAA's attitude toward it:

"Only time in a fixed wing aircraft is counted, this specifically excludes simulator, helicopter, WSO, RIO, FE, NAV,EWO and UAV."


http://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/2153.html

 

[pilotyip]

SWA's recent ad is the first I've seen addressing UAV time for hiring purposes. Still don't know about the FAA's attitude toward it:

"Only time in a fixed wing aircraft is counted, this specifically excludes simulator, helicopter, WSO, RIO, FE, NAV,EWO and UAV."


http://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/2153.html

[FONT=&quot]I know the fixed wing brotherhood looks down on the helo drivers as lessor pilots, I mean they have never been to FL410, or done a M.78 descent. Hovering into a dark LZ on goggles is much more demanding of a pilot?s skills than shooting a Cat II approach. Someone has to figure out why uninformed management knuckleheads don't view a multi-crew Captain time in an advanced IFR helo like the H-60, H-46, H-53 or H-47 as not real flight time. However, PIC in a VFR only C-150 in the traffic pattern is the breakfast of champions for an airline career by those who set hard fixed wing limits and ignore helo time in total time. Why are most management and insurance company?s sooooo waaaayyyy out of touch with reality? Ops I am sorry I was management bashing again.


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[bafanguy]

[FONT=&quot] Why are most management and insurance company?s sooooo waaaayyyy out of touch with reality? Ops I am sorry I was management bashing again.[/FONT]

Yip,

Well, management bashing is just so darned much FUN !! And sooo richly deserved. :laugh:

 

[bafanguy]

As for acceptance of rotor time, there seem to be places that take some amount of it toward hiring quals total time.