Midwest ALPA MEC rescinding their support for management

[FlyWolf]

Today the Midwest MEC passed a resolution to rescind their endorsement of management’s plan to remain independent.

 

[Lear70]

Today the Midwest MEC passed a resolution to rescind their endorsement of management’s plan to remain independent.

Really...

Any idea what prompted that?

 

[FlyWolf]

A lot have happened between the company and the union just in the last 2 days, let me put it this way, its ugly.

 

[Kharma Police]

Today the Midwest MEC passed a resolution to rescind their endorsement of management’s plan to remain independent.

Does this mean you still want date of hire?

 

[Frequency]

Might have a lot to do with this... what i have been hearing is that one of the stipulations of the TPG deal was that the Midwest pilots had to extend their agreement and cost structure.

 

[Kharma Police]

Might have a lot to do with this... what i have been hearing is that one of the stipulations of the TPG deal was that the Midwest pilots had to extend their agreement and cost structure.

That doesn't sound so bad if you could remain a stand alone company. Money and work rules aren't everything.

 

[Lear70]

Whoa, wait a second...

How the hell does an outside bidder think they can get the union to give a concessionary contract extension as part of their bid?

Wouldn't that be kind of like asking a car salesman to buy your gas for a year if you buy the car his boss is selling?

WTF?

 

[248to2.8]

No the big stink is that the MEH management told ALPA that the deal depended on an extended contract. Then the union finds out that it never was a part of the deal, but management wanted it so TPG could raise their offer if they had to. So, once again, being lied to by the board.

 

[Frequency]

Boy, sounds like Timmy is trying to avoid the Airtran deal at the expense of his shareholders and now his employees. You guys are truly better off going with the Airtran deal and now the MEC knows this as well.

 

[FlyWolf]

If Midwest is going to be sold eitherway then I would much rather see Airtran as th new owner. A lot of our pilots feel the same way.

 

[slackass]

I hear the TPG deal also involved Northwest's portion at 40%. Anyone else hear this?

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

I hear the TPG deal also involved Northwest's portion at 40%. Anyone else hear this?

Yeah, thats old news.

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

If Midwest is going to be sold eitherway then I would much rather see Airtran as th new owner. A lot of our pilots feel the same way.

I second that.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Where do they find these managers that think they can negotiate concessions for labor (status quo / inflation) without getting an agreement with labor first?

This is not like selling a car from your lot. This is like selling someone else's car without their consent.

 

[GOULET!]

Hey FlyWolf...im not calling your a liar or anything but is there any official source for the claim? I was really shocked the way the MEC came out on Sunday so public about the deal. I feel like there is egg on the face of the MEC if 4 days later he turns around and changes his mind.

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

Hey FlyWolf...im not calling your a liar or anything but is there any official source for the claim? I was really shocked the way the MEC came out on Sunday so public about the deal. I feel like there is egg on the face of the MEC if 4 days later he turns around and changes his mind.

Its true. It came out via email in an ALPA fastread.

 

[FlyWolf]

Hey FlyWolf...im not calling your a liar or anything but is there any official source for the claim? I was really shocked the way the MEC came out on Sunday so public about the deal. I feel like there is egg on the face of the MEC if 4 days later he turns around and changes his mind.

Yes, it came via email and its on the MEA ALPA website.

 

[FlyWolf]

No the big stink is that the MEH management told ALPA that the deal depended on an extended contract. Then the union finds out that it never was a part of the deal, but management wanted it so TPG could raise their offer if they had to. So, once again, being lied to by the board.

Yes, that is what I heard too and the MEC is not happy at all. I am glad they told the company NO, THANKS.

 

[CitationLover]

Yes, that is what I heard too and the MEC is not happy at all. I am glad they told the company NO, THANKS.

100% agree. we'll find out tomorrow morning.

 

[mnboyev]

Good for u guys !!....After nine and a half years at nwa.. I can tell you life will be better at AirTran ....period.... Those NWA lawyer-MBA numskulls will keep you guys in a slow spiral till you are no threat and then move into your gates and flyin..... What was Champion created for? as soon as the threat is gone they will drop you like lead weight !! Thank goodness your MEC has some sense... The best future is to 'hook up' with the Tranny. You keep your flying...get a raise...future growth...most likely do the same flyin you always have..with the same folks...and have some solid security as a significant player in the domestic market !! You think the ATL rednecks are gonna head nord to MKE....not.....and the Cookie crowd isn't going to ATL...we all know that !!! Fair integration....security ....future growth....better pay....more jets.... more routes.....more pilots....duhhhh... That's why red rudder is pissed.....if they wanted u...... they would buy u and integrate the pilots....??? WTFO....it should be a no brainer for the hard workin...intelligent..competent pilots of Midwest Airlines ! I say we hook up and put an end to the bullshiess..... just sick of the money institutions ruining regular hard workin guys security ...retirement...stability .......thanks for listening....peace...se you guys on the line......buy ya'll a miller anytime at the Landmark !!!

 

[Flydaplane]

The Midex MEC are idiots who backed these idiots all year. They may actually have to fly a schedule if the airtran rgoes through. It has always been about Tim and how much he can walk away with. He's got tons of stock.

 

[Eagle757shark]

If Midwest is going to be sold eitherway then I would much rather see Airtran as th new owner. A lot of our pilots feel the same way.

If the merger goes through, we welcome you and look forward to building a strong pilot union. Bottom line, we all have to stick together and fight for our careers. Best of luck to us all!

 

[FlyWolf]

Thanks Eagle, but I think its too late, they sold to TPG for $17 a share.

 

[CitationLover]

Thanks Eagle, but I think its too late, they sold to TPG for $17 a share.

and guaranteed a long section 6 process with their actions in the last few days.

flydaplane,
they were not idiots. it was simply a political move to possibly gain favor for section 6 next year. as we have seen, pilot support means nothing in these deals and it was purely political.

 

[75M]

How the hell does an outside bidder think they can get the union to give a concessionary contract extension as part of their bid?

Wouldn't that be kind of like asking a car salesman to buy your gas for a year if you buy the car his boss is selling?

Yes. And its been done before.